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    This is pretty long but I just ran across it and thought it was interesting. I have already checked it out on snopes & it says TRUE.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and tried to light it?

    Did you know that his trial is over?

    Did you know he was sentenced?

    Did you see/hear any of the judge's remarks on TV or radio? Didn't think so.

    Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.

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    Ruling by Judge William Young, US District Court.



    Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he had anything to say.

    His response: After admitting his guilt to the court for the record, Reid also admitted his "allegiance to Osama bin Laden, to Islam, and to the religion of Allah," defiantly stated "I think I will not apologize for my actions," and told the court "I am at war with your country."

    Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted below:

    January 30, 2003, United States vs. Reid. Judge Young:



    "Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes upon you.

    On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in the custody of the United States Attorney General. On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years in prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutive with the other. That's 80 years. On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years consecutive to the 80 years just imposed. The Court imposes upon you each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 for the aggregate fine of $2 million. The Court accepts the government's recommendation with respect to restitution and orders restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines. The Court imposes upon you the $800 special assessment.

    The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply because the law requires it. But the life sentences are real life sentences so I need go no further. This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes. It is a fair and just sentence. It is a righteous sentence.

    Let me explain this to you. We are not afraid of you or any of your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid. We are Americans. We have been through the fire before. There is all too much war talk here and I say that to everyone with the utmost respect. Here in this court, we deal with individuals as individuals and care for individuals as individuals.

    As human beings, we reach out for justice. You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are not a soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that reference, to call you a soldier, gives you far too much stature. Whether it is the officers of government who do it or your attorney who does it, or if you think you are a soldier. You are not----- you are a terrorist. And we do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not meet with terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists. We hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice.

    So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big fellow. But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I've known warriors.

    You are a terrorist. A species of criminal that is guilty of multiple attempted murders. In a very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it right when you first were taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the press and where the TV crews were, and he said: "You're no big deal."

    You are no big deal.

    What your able counsel and what the equally able United States attorneys have grappled with and what I have as honestly as I know how tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific. What was it that led you here to this courtroom today?

    I have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask you to search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led you to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing. And I have an answer for you. It may not satisfy you, but as I search this entire record, it comes as close to understanding as I know.

    It seems to me you hate the one thing that to us is most precious. You hate our freedom. Our individual freedom - our individual freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we individually choose. Here, in this society, the very wind carries freedom. It carries it everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is because we prize individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful courtroom. So that everyone can see, truly see, that justice is administered fairly, individually, and discretely. It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your behalf and have filed appeals, will go on in their representation of you before other judges.

    We Americans are all about freedom. Because we all know that the way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties. Make no mistake though. It is yet true that we will bear any burden; pay any price, to preserve our freedoms. Look around this courtroom. Mark it well. The world is not going to long remember what you or I say here.

    Day after tomorrow, it will be forgotten, but this, however, will long endure. Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all across America, the American people will gather to see that justice, individual justice, justice, not war, individual justice is in fact being done. The very President of the United States through his officers come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific matters can be judged and juries of citizens will gather to sit and judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense of justice.

    See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the United States of America. That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten. That flag stands for freedom And it always will.

    Mr. Custody Officer. Stand him down.



    So, how much of this Judge's comments did we hear on our TV sets? We need more judges like Judge Young, but that's another subject. Pass this around. Everyone should and needs to hear what this fine judge had to say.

    Powerful words that strike home.

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    That's one judge that can reach in my cooler any time he wants. We need more like him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reelcrappie
    That's one judge that can reach in my cooler any time he wants. We need more like him.
    amen.....and ditto.
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    Nice one Hawk...It must be true too , cause the snopes birds haven't picked it apart yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big "E"
    Nice one Hawk...It must be true too , cause the snopes birds haven't picked it apart yet.
    Yeah, I checked it out before I posted it. Like the guy said, I don't remember hearing much about it when it happened.
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    Great article. It's a shame that you had to dig to find it. It should have been front page news and the main story on all the news channels. Thanks for sharing it.
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    Simon Peter said to them, "I am going fishing." They said to him, "We are going with you also." They went out and immediately got into the boat, and that night they caught nothing.

    And we act like this Nightstalking thing is new.

    For some excitment, read the next verse. A special guest arrived, they filled their coolers and had a fish fry on the beach...in the morning. My kind of people.- Bowfin

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    the media never seems to carry the stories with a happy ending, thank you hawkman for giving us the happy ending we need to here once in awhile

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    All the media reports are the negative things. Some times I think that the mainstream media in this country is on the wrong side of the fence. Instead of trying to influence the public opinion they should get back to reporting the news as it is instead of slanting it.

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    Thats great Hawk.. I REALLY needed to read that.. Thanks for sharing..Bam
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