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Cmj
04-22-2013, 07:59 AM
I love Crappie fishing, period. I spiderrig when I feel the urge, I have even been known to pull out the casting rig and toss a bobber at the bank. But vertical jigging brush is by far my favorite method for putting slabs in the boat. I love that thump at the end of about ten ft of line! Give er a tug and that big ole sow slowly comes to the surface, and after a little bit of thrashing, lays on her side, beautiful!! This method works well for me because I can keep moving, maybe i'm a little ADD!! When I find some brush that is holding fish, I toss out a buoy and drop my lines and work the brush over real good, trying different depths as I move in, over and around the brush. If I dont catch any in a few minutes, I am outta there and on to the next one. If I catch one, I will stick around until it slows down, then im gone!! I have seen people sit on the same top all day and it seems to produce well for them. So, I guess there's more than one way to skin a cat, as they say. So I want to hear from the guys that share the same affection for this style of fishing. How do you do it, any tips or tricks that you have learned over the years that has worked well for you? I am always looking to improve my skills!!http://www.crappie.com/crappie/attachment.php?attachmentid=123378&d=1366634804

river scum
04-22-2013, 08:32 AM
you got that rite brother! no funner way to catch them.

basic tips would be- be silent, use sent, jig slow on the up swing so you dont snag, if you get snagged dont set the hook! lol (if you dont bury the hook most times a gentile shaking will free it), you pretty much covered the move move move, be willing to change color and jig size, find depth zone and stay in it, learn to read the weather, dont fish your best spots when others are around. lol

no way to tell it all. jigging brush is a learned feel. every spring i have to get back into the groove. it takes concentration to feel around in a snagy pile without getting hung and ruining the bite there. i too share the love of the jig CMJ. FISH ON BRO FISH ON!:cheers2

Locator79
04-22-2013, 12:23 PM
You do it, just like I do, but I'm a little less patient. My trolling motor is always turning unles I find the mother load. I took me a while to get the knack for vertical jigging, but now I have a jig pole in the boat every time I leave the house.

Lonestar Proud
04-22-2013, 06:20 PM
I too love vertical jigging better than any other technique, so much so that I'd rather catch one slab from a brush pile or submerged timber 20'-30' deep than five fish up shallow. I'll pitch jigs to shallow cover, use a slip bobber, shoot docks, dip weed beds, and spider rig also, but deep vertical jiggin is my favorite way to catch them hands down! I'm the opposite of Locator79, I'll stay longer than I should when I know fish are under me (downscan/sidescan), I'll switch colors and depths with each color just trying to make em bite. I know I should stay moving when the fish aren't actively hitting but I just keep thinking "five more minutes and they'll turn on" LOL!! Another thing is to have spots to fish no matter what the wind is doing so you always have options of places to go. My favorite spots are areas where I have cover from 12' deep out to 25-30' deep in a very short distance. This way the fish don't have to leave the area, they just need to move a few yards to deeper water and stay in the same cover.

genec
04-22-2013, 07:34 PM
Lonestar,I fish somewhat like you do ,however if I fish where Cmj was fishing I would hit each thee quick and move so how one fish should be determine by each lake he fish, I fish mostly BP but I first cast to it before I jig over it

Cmj
04-22-2013, 07:57 PM
I do fish Lake Conway a lot, which has thousands of Cypress trees. That is a tricky technique to learn as well. I was mainly referring to jigging brush piles in open water, but the methods are sort of interchangeable.

Bronson
04-23-2013, 08:13 PM
I love tightlining too and have to admit my biggest fault is staying in one spot too long. However, I usually wind up scratching one up if I stay with it. Funny thing is I know it would be more productive to move and I'm always excited to see what the next brushpile has too offer. Many times, I will find one that has more fish than the other brushpiles.

I like usng crappie nibbles anytime I'm tightlining. I lay several up front so the air can dry them out a little. This helps them stay on the hook longer. Use a plug knocker (sinker) to knock jigs that get hung up. Also use a heavy enough jig that you can feel it when it bumps into a limb. I've had hits on light jigs that were a few feet behind me, draped over a limb when I thought they were directly under me.

I love casting for them too but if it's deep enough, I'm going to follow it up by tightlining. Try the fluorocarbon knot (can be found on youtube) and pull the line towards the point of the hook. This way the jig stays horizontal. I've found in most cases short graphite rods of 5 1/2 feet work better than the longer graphite rods. I love fluorcarbon line (I used Seaguar's CarbonPro until they quit making it.) Now I'm almost out and haven't found anything I like as well.

skeetbum
04-23-2013, 09:05 PM
Fishawk showed me a good way to fish like this and I'm now hooked on it as well. For me it's a winter or colder weather pattern. Butt on the front seat, eye's on the electronics, foot on the tm, and an 8' BnM bgjp with braid and flouro in each hand. As the brush hits the screen you lift the foot off the tm, the wind slows you down and the 1/8oz jigs come under you into the pile and the rod goes "THUMP" with authority!!. Lift the rod and the fish doesn't come up. Set the other rod in the hi-tek and start liftin the pig. Such great fun!! I still fish other methods but that has my heart. The braid has such contact that the rod jumps in your hand, and light bites don't often get past me. The rods are light and balance well so it's no effort to hold them for hours. I lived in FL over 30 yrs and chased all kinds of fish but this has got to be up there with the best.

Cmj
04-23-2013, 09:25 PM
I like the idea of the sensitivity that braid would give me, but I rely on the stretch that I get from mono on the hookset. Did you have to train yourself to hold back while using braid, or do you set the hook the same? I try to cross their eyes when they bite!!!

Lonestar Proud
04-24-2013, 10:20 AM
I use braid exclusively on all my jiggin poles because of the sensitivity it provides, if the water is real clear I will add a floro leader about 4' long. When a jig is at a 25' or deeper depth, I believe the increased sensitivity has allowed me to put more fish in the livewell than when I used mono. I use Fireline HiViz 10# test / 4# diameter. The added benifit of braid is that I don't lose very many jigs. The braid will straighten the sickle hook and I just keep bending them back to original shape till they finally just break the hook shank. I'm sold on braid and will probably never switch away from it unless something with even more sensitivity is developed.

I've never seen the need to "rip lips" sitting the hook on crappie, especially with braid, sickle hooks are very,very sharp and the majority of the hooksets with sickle hooks are through the top of the mouth/nose area and are solid hookups, at least in my experiance anyway. The motion I use on hooksets probably resembles the speed/quickness in which I'd pick up a ringing telephone, it works for me.

mifon
04-24-2013, 10:52 AM
What rods do you like when vertical jigging? And what length? Rear reel seat or other? Does the size of your jig matter, or do you just add split shot to adjust? Do you use this method after the spawn when the crappie move back off the bank?

Great thread, ya'll!! Keep it up..........inquiring minds want to know

Mike

Cmj
04-24-2013, 11:13 AM
What rods do you like when vertical jigging? And what length? Rear reel seat or other? Does the size of your jig matter, or do you just add split shot to adjust? Do you use this method after the spawn when the crappie move back off the bank?

Great thread, ya'll!! Keep it up..........inquiring minds want to know

Mike

I use 10', 11', and 12' jig poles for vertical jigging. The 10' is a Berkley Cherrywood(my favorite), the reel seats about 4" from the bottom. The 11'er is a rear seat Ozark, which gives me the same reach as my 12' Ozark forward seat. They all have their place, but my 10 and 11'ers get the most use. Jig size depends on wind, depth and what the fish want that day. I normally use 1/16oz heads to start with and go up to 1/8th or 1/4 when the wind gets bad so I can stay in the strike zone. If they are wanting a smaller bait, I will put a splitshot about 12-18" up from my jig. As far as when to use this technique, it just depends on the lake. My home lake averages 7' and has lots of cover to jig year round. Other lakes, ie. deep/clear ones, you will have a short window before, during, and after the spawn, then again in the fall. You can probably find some brush in the 20-25 ft range to jig in the winter and summer, but I prefer other methods at those times. Hope this helps.

Lonestar Proud
04-24-2013, 11:43 AM
What rods do you like when vertical jigging? And what length? Rear reel seat or other? Does the size of your jig matter, or do you just add split shot to adjust? Do you use this method after the spawn when the crappie move back off the bank?

Great thread, ya'll!! Keep it up..........inquiring minds want to know

Mike

Mind you that these are just what I do, everyone has their own preferences.

Pro Angler jiggin poles are my favorite.

I use only two lengths on my jiggin poles. If I'm jiggin deep submerged stuff or pitching jigs towards shallow cover I use an 8 footer. Standing timber or bridge pilings I like using a 10 footer because it gives me a little more reach. I use low profile baitcasters on all of my jiggin poles, only spinning reels I have are on dock shooters.

Size of jig (weight) depends on the application and wind. I always use the lightest weight that I can "feel" at the depth the fish are at, this may be 1/32 oz or it may be 1/4 oz. I very very rarely will use a split shot above a jig, the exception would be if it's windy enough that I can't feel a 1/4 oz jighead at depth. Wind conditions and depth determine the weight for me.

Hooksize in the jighead depends on the size of plastic I'm using, it could be a little #6 sickle, or it could be a #1 sickle. I never use anything larger than a #1 or smaller than a #6. A #2 is probably the most used size by me, and I only use Matzuo Sickles.

I seldom pitch jigs up shallow during the spawn, there are always fish staged in deeper water during the spawn and I would rather catch crappie on deeper cover than up shallow next to the bank anytime!

Cmj
04-24-2013, 12:00 PM
i seldom pitch jigs up shallow during the spawn, there are always fish staged in deeper water during the spawn and i would rather catch crappie on deeper cover than up shallow next to the bank anytime!
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jackie53
04-24-2013, 01:58 PM
Mr nimrod and meatgetter gave me some pointer's on (vertical jig)fishing last fall at crappie camp.I havn't looked back.Use meaatgetters ozark rods and have added a basspro crappiemax recommended by a friend works great the (ozark is the best).Have added berkley's NANO line in 10 and 12 lb (4 and 6 lb dia) kind of like braid but more like mono works great.Folks fishing with me switch to the NANO from berkley kind of pricey but worth it NANO in clear mist.I can see(the bite) it the fish cannot and we fish clear water!!! Thanks Ninrod and meatgetter!! Use mostly 1/8 oz doublecross jigheads but like 3/32 and 3/16 oz at times ( wind and slower bite) Southern pro tubes,midsouth tubes and crappie magnets!!!

skeetbum
04-25-2013, 07:25 AM
I set with a snap of the wrist and lift til I get contact. It's not gentle. I lose few fish from an exuberant hookset. The flouro leader on mine is more to ease retying but clear water days I'm sure it helps.

CrappiePappy
04-25-2013, 09:26 AM
While I've done "little to none" in the way of vertical jigging ... I have used braid, tied directly to the jig, with a splitshot ~12" above it. Mind you, this braid (PowerPro 10/2 hi-vis) is on a 7' IM8 med action Bionic Blade rod w/Shimano Spirex 2000 reel ... and the jig is less than 15' from the rod tip. And, where I'm used to a "tic" feeling, if any, when casting a jig alone ... the "thump" that vertical jiggers often refer to, felt more like a "WHACK" on this outfit :Rofl

And, just to clarify .... I had the splitshot on the line for only one purpose, and that was to use it to knock the jig free if I happened to need to do so. I was jigging over a large brushpile, and even though I was using a weedless jighead, it would occasionally catch in the many branches as I dragged this jig in/out/over/around this brushpile. And, while I could have easily ripped the jig free with the 10lb test braid, or bent the hook open enough to free it, I didn't want to do any damage to the brush ... so drop bouncing that splitshot, to free the jig, was the least damaging or least disruptive way I knew. I certainly didn't need it to get my jig down to the pile, which was in ~15' of water & topped out at less than 8' from the surface.

And while it didn't amaze me that I could feel the bites exceptionally well with the rod & braid, it did startle me somewhat that the hits were transmitted so strongly with that splitshot "running interference" between the rod tip & jig. Actually, it startled me so much, that on the first few fish I nearly jerked them out of the water on the hookset :Rofl (thinking it was something much larger than the 10" Crappie that it turned out to be)

... cp :kewl