bugman, been dippin' minners around trees and :D catchin' SLABS. Dangest thing I done in years. Ain't going any deeper than 10ft,,,,,bottom. I'd like to explain just how this is happening,,,,:p but I'd have ta-kill-ya. When we get together at the 'izzy' fishing memorial,,,I'll try to explain it. I gonna pull some cranks this weekend with some clients but, I expect we will hit hybirds & whites. <*)}}}><