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badbrad
06-20-2006, 05:47 AM
I'll start by saying that I'm very much a novice crappie fisherman. I joined the site like most other people to learn more about catching crappie. With that, I've picked up some useful tips and techniques along the way and have actually caught a few more fish.

I figured with our hot weather we are now experiencing that I'd try fishing at night. So, I've read the posts and articles and formulated a game plan. My son and I headed out this past Thursday evening for our first attempt.

To start things off however, I got stuck working a bit later than I intended so we didn't leave the house till 7:30. No problem, that would put us on the lake by 8:30 or 8:45 right about the time it's getting dark. We make the drive to the lake and stop for minnows and ice. Much to our suprise the bait shop was closed. A young girl cleaning up inside tells me they close at 8:00. I ask her if there would be any way possible that we could just get a few dozen minnows and a couple bags of ice. Again she tells me Sorry, we closed at 8:00. My son and I then went on a quest looking for minnows and two bags of Ice because at this point I'm going fishing! Would you believe that not one store near the lake was open! We ended up having to drive 20 miles to the nearest town to a Jr. Foods Store (like a 7/11) that believe it or not sold live bait. (first one I've ever seen that did that) I was a bit discouraged at this point, but I'm a very determined person and my son was still eager to catch a fish. We finally hit the lake around 10:00. I wish I could end my story by saying we loaded the boat....but only one crappie to show for our efforts and two green carp! Now I see why so many people hang up the crappie rods after the spring. I'm not going to give up on trying to catch these things. I guess I just need to do more homework or improve the areas that I'm trying to fish.

I appreciate you all letting me use this post to vent a little.

KCBH
06-20-2006, 05:49 AM
Check out the night fishing threads.

Don't give up on them little suckers ... they eat everyday!

painterfish
06-20-2006, 07:11 AM
if youre going fishing just to reel in a fish youe missing out on the real fun however catching a few aint bad

Roberta
06-20-2006, 07:54 AM
Setting up a cheap minnow tank so you can keep some bait around helps fight the goofy bait shop hours. We started keeping our leftover minnows and buying more to have on hand for when WE want to fish.

A plastic cooler, small aquarium filter and a good sized aerator is all you need. You can get the aquarium supplies at WalMart. - Roberta

bugman
06-20-2006, 08:01 AM
First off keep on trying you will get them figured out and learn what works for you,secondly i would never darken the door of that first place you stopped at if they dont have any more time than that then they would be way too busy for my business.

1weezer
06-20-2006, 09:33 AM
Brad, give me a shout buddy.

magnum500
06-20-2006, 11:16 AM
Don't ever give up on crappie. here in south Carolina I catch crappie year round. If you put enough time in you can find the fish at any time because they have to eat to survive. The bite is slower in hot weather so you won't catch as many but I usually bring home 25-30 keepers. In the fall through spring my buddy and I will limit out almost every time and sometimes catch between 100 and 200 but a lot of them are dinks. We have found that in the hotter months we catch more good fish than we do dinks.

So never give up. Just keep those lines wet and enjoy your time on the water.

MAY YOUR BOBBERS SUBMERGE AND YOUR LINES BE TIGHT!!

badbrad
06-20-2006, 11:34 AM
thanks guys for the words of encouragement I guarantee you wouldn't find anyone on a green carp site sympathizing with a person who is having difficulty catching fish. This is what separates Crappie fishermen from everyone else. I'm not about to give it up. I love it too much. I'm thinking about trying a few things differently. Maybe trying to concentrate on disecting one creek of the lake in and out rather than wondering aimlessly around the entire lake. I know catching isn't the most important part. Trust me, fishing to me is like therapy whether I'm catching or not.....but it's much funner when you catch them and I eat better. lol! I just got a book on seasonal structure for Crappies. So I'm trying to do everything I can to up my odds.

mighty
06-20-2006, 11:34 AM
I went fishing thursday too, the bait shop nornally closes at 10pm on the weekends but it closed ealier on weekdays 9pm. They just looked at me and said were closed. I decided to go get some chicken livers from the piggly wiggly and do some cattin. Because I did not have any minnows I was forced to use jigs. Orange/Chart had both crappie and the white bass going. I also used a salt and pepper panfish assassin. Caught a 2lber of that.

You know some times we are put in positions where we have to just work it out. I was happy cause I came home with about 15lbs of fish all off jigs from night fishing. I was out there for 13hrs by the way.

I just started chasin crappie last year and I tell ya. The more time you put in the more ya learn and the more ya catch. Pay attention and watch for some type of pattern. It all comes with time. Practice now cause september's just around the corner.

But back to bait shop. I have spent enough money these past few months with them they could have let me in.

SwampHunter
06-20-2006, 07:00 PM
thanks guys for the words of encouragement I guarantee you wouldn't find anyone on a green carp site sympathizing with a person who is having difficulty catching fish. This is what separates Crappie fishermen from everyone else. I'm not about to give it up.


Your probably right. On a bass fishing site someone might have told you to suck it up and quit being a crybaby or quit fishing all together. Most minnow sucking perch fishermen do quit right after spring because the fishing is a bit too tough for them. Boo whoo!

Fishermen are fishermen and arrogance can be as simple as someone saying something bad about "green carp" fishermen.
If you really want to up your odds get out there and fish instead of trying to learn by the internet and books. The fish you seek can and will be your greatest teachers.
Here little fishy. Come bite my hook. :p

KCBH
06-20-2006, 08:07 PM
The hours spent fishing is not counted against your life span.

Enjoy!

kcbh

mperry
06-21-2006, 01:12 AM
Don't give up on the night fishing. I have started as early as 8:00 and not really start getting bit until 11:00 or midnight. Sometimes it takes a while before the fish start feeding. If you start seeing a lot of small minnows around your lights I would move. I think the bigger minnows = bigger fish.

fishindaddyo
06-21-2006, 05:18 AM
I love night fishing the local pond b/c the water's open, no other anglers and the place just has a serenity to it that's hard to find in most suburban towns. I also love not knowing what's on the end of my line till I get it in. I've just gotta figure out where the slabs are b/c all I've been catching lately are bass. I posted a thread in the VA area about this same deal but I'm having a hard time locating crappie without any real visible structure (brushpiles, trees, etc) on the water I fish. it's fun to learn and exciting just to be on the water, landing a fish is just the treat for making the trip.

badbrad
06-21-2006, 06:27 AM
Swamphunter, I think you read something in to what I said. Most bass fisherman are tight lipped about where and how there catching fish. No disrespect to any member of the fishing family. I fish every chance I get, but I work full time job, have a part time job on the side and kids that are my # 1 priority. My time on the water is limited. So if I can't be on the water, I'll read to see if I might pick up a tip or to. After all it's just fishing for crying out loud! Didn't mean to strike a nerve!

Bruce Carp
06-21-2006, 06:30 AM
use your electronics to find structure, then mark those spots. spend a day scouting your fishing lake and identify structure that holds fish, mark them on a gps. Fishing is summer is often the most productive fishing in that it is not dependent of good weather and fronts. Find the summer pattern, develop your milk run, then work your routes! You should do well if you do your homework. Develop a network of fishing friends share info on what type of bait is preferred that day and you will all start to be more productive. My two cents. Claim that summer is the best fishing of the year. Few windy, cold or rainy days, just fish a little deeper and put fish on ice! Good luck, but wait I think I have another bite. Bruce

badbrad
06-21-2006, 06:34 AM
swamphunter....I think you are reading something in to what I wrote. Bass fisherman are usually tight lipped about where and how they are catching fish. No disrespect to anyone in the fishing family. My time on the water is limited due to a full time job, part time job on the side and two kids being my # 1 priority. If I can't be on the water then I'll be reading something about it hoping to maybe pickup a tip or two. It's just fishing after all, didn't mean to strike a nerve!@

SwampHunter
06-21-2006, 07:04 AM
Swamphunter, I think you read something in to what I said. Most bass fisherman are tight lipped about where and how there catching fish. No disrespect to any member of the fishing family. I fish every chance I get, but I work full time job, have a part time job on the side and kids that are my # 1 priority. My time on the water is limited. So if I can't be on the water, I'll read to see if I might pick up a tip or to. After all it's just fishing for crying out loud! Didn't mean to strike a nerve!

I know I would get a bite!
Nope, I think I read that petty much right on. Why was green carp fishermen even brought up in the first place? It sure wasn't anything pertaining to about night fishing for minnow sucking perch to your post.
Most crappie fishermen are tight-lipped about where and how they are catching fish too. Yep, you will have some that will tell you but I can assure you that you didn't get enough replies to prove that any type of fishermen is better. In fact the folks on this site MIGHT represent 2% of the crappie fishermen in the country. And I didn't count the replies versus the number of members here, but I can assure that you got less than 2% of the folks on this site to reply. With those kind of numbers I wouldn't go bragging that one type of fishermen is better than another.
Now if you have a full time job, a part time job, kids, and then you fish every chance you get, just how do you find time to get on the internet and post something tha is in no way, shape or form dealing with the questions you are posing? Could it be that you are stealing money from the company while playing on the computer while you should really be working? And everyone wonders why the jobs are leaving America.
Yep, and it is just fishing for crying out loud and if you were not seperated from other fishermen you would have seen this to begin with. Some folks that fishes for a certain type of fish, with certain gear, that use certain boats or live in certain areas are better than everyone else. Just ask them and they will tell you. Or just sit back and watch, they will tell it anyway. Probably even in a post that has nothing to do with the subject.
Now since you caught two bass and one crappie I would say that you went bass fishing and ended up with a crappie. :D Eeeeewww, I can't believe you caught green carp!

smedley
06-21-2006, 08:56 AM
think of it this way. You just eliminated some water that's not holding fish during that particular weather pattern and moon phase. Find some new areas and remember what the weather was like and the moon phase. Keeping a journal helps some people. don't completely give up on the areas that you fished with no success though. Try them again when the weather pattern changes. they might be awesome areas during the fall or winter.

radtexan
06-21-2006, 12:23 PM
Your getting some good advice so far.Summertime is more difficult than spring and fall,but it has become my favorite time of year.I love night stalking and dont get to fish much during the day.we dont have to battle the jet fleas and skiers either.Get a couple of green lights you can drop,always carry some jigs.I was mailny a minnow guy until a couple of years ago,like you we got to the lake late and the store was closed.We still use a combination of minnows ang jigs catch rate is almost the same but I belive more quality fish come from the jigs.We look for places where a channel gets as close to the bank as possible 20-30 ' of water and catch them any where from 18' up to near surface . Hope any of that helps Roger

Marc
06-21-2006, 12:59 PM
FISHED RC 09-22-05

WIND: S/E 1 TO 5/ NONE
TEMP: LOW 100S

CAUGHT ALL FISH IN THE TIMBERS, 20' TO 27' OF WATER FISH SUSPENDED AT 14' TO 17'. NOTE CAUGHT THE BIGGEST 14.5 AT THE 5TH COLLUM SOUTH SIDE OF BRIDGE FROM EAST SIDE. 29 SLABS KEPT NONE UNDER 12", AND 30 TO 40 THROW BACKS ALL JIGING 1/16 HEADLESS MINNOWS. STARTED AT 12:00 PM AND FISHED TILL 7:30 PM

This is my summer pattern usually, get to the lake around lunch and fish till 7 or so in the evening. Now I fish Texas water but that still should not make a difference. I also purchaced this dvd trolling for crappie http://www.northtexasguideservice.com/video.html that is a good technique for summer time fishing which I will try this year. I love summer time fishing.

Good Luck

Marc

slabbandit
06-21-2006, 10:17 PM
Hang in there Brad. I too am just starting to try night fishing. I've made 2 trips out on a lake that I live on and know fairly well and have not had any real success yet.

I can tell that I like doing it though and I will keep trying it till I get it right for my lake.

I will tell you this...Keep reading all you can and watch all the great videos available on crappie fishing and you will become alot better crappie fisherman in a shorter time.

Every day I see fishermen who only use one technique every time they go out. This may be fine with them but personally I want to know how to catch them with many different techniques. My passion is vertical jigging manmade brushpiles but I also like casting a cork and jig for shallow fish.

I've been dabbling with trolling Bandit crankbaits also but I've got a lot of refining to do on my system.

I geuss what I am trying to say is that this website is the best place to learn anything you want to know about crappie fishing. Don't ever be afraid to ask advice or post a question for the other members.

Good Luck

HurricaneJM
06-24-2006, 04:12 PM
Swamphunter, I think you read something in to what I said. Most bass fisherman are tight lipped about where and how there catching fish. No disrespect to any member of the fishing family. I fish every chance I get, but I work full time job, have a part time job on the side and kids that are my # 1 priority. My time on the water is limited. So if I can't be on the water, I'll read to see if I might pick up a tip or to. After all it's just fishing for crying out loud! Didn't mean to strike a nerve!


i dont see any difference between bass and crappie fisherman...the people at bassmasters forums have helped me alot! I swear the only reason people are jealous of bass fisherman, is because they have the kick @ss boats!

volfan
06-24-2006, 06:28 PM
Brad-
What lake are you fishing, Barren River? Try next to some older docks or a commercial marina in 15+' of water. We have had good luck around the ones on Priest. We don't have any private docks, just a few commercial ones.