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Crestliner08
09-21-2012, 06:33 PM
Not so sure this applies to crappie. Caught some brutes today with a small "Panfish Assassin". This little straight tail, do-nothing plastic has been producing big time for me. Sometimes even better than the Baby Shad, which is a bit larger (longer). Trying some Brewers "Bass Grubs" (with the paddle tail) and have caught nothing with those as yet, but I'm still trying (these are 2 1/2" bodies). So, I'm guessing the reverse is probably true with our crappie species. Yes? No?

NIMROD
09-21-2012, 07:06 PM
I figure it's more like what the bait fish size is. Here we have tons of larger Shad and even dinks kill bigger baits. I catch a few each season using oversized 3/8 oz double willow leaf spinnerbaits while Bass fishing! My favorite bait for Crappie year round here is a 1/8 oz leadhead pushed inside a 2'' Southern Pro Umbrella tube to add bulk. It is double the size most I see fishing using for Crappie.

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Crestliner08
09-22-2012, 05:52 AM
Thanks for your input. I'll keep trying some of my larger plastics. :)

Crappie 1
09-22-2012, 06:23 AM
Not sure about "bigger for Crappie". When I did a lot of Walleye fishing, the method was always "Big fish want a big meal". How that applies to Crappie I'm not sure. I know they like bigger minnows sometimes.

river scum
09-22-2012, 07:19 AM
not really and yes is the answer. its a matter of getting the rite bait in front of that trophy at the rite time. some days its small some days it big. its more important to get location down IMO. same holds for all fish. now using live 3" shad will keep the dinks off your hook, which leaves it open for big momma. so in a way the answer is yes too. lol its more a matter of the fishes mood. pick a good lake and learn it.

genec
09-22-2012, 07:33 AM
In my experience, I notice that it is not the size of bait fish in area as much as the mood the fish are in.If it is a slow day like no wind ,high bluebird sky,that is when I will even cut off half of a bait like a bass assassin and jig over them and have caught fish up to 17 inches but you need water thats not too muddy, fairly clear.It use to surprise me how big of a fish that would hit such a small bait when I had already offered them a fair size bait and would not hit it

LBM
09-22-2012, 09:11 AM
For me the question of big bait versus small baits as being effective has been settled after seeing 4+" shad floating in my live well the crappie had spit up. It's still a day to day process of trying to determine whether it's a big bait day or a smaller bait. It frequently amazes me at how small a crappie will hit a bait larger than it is. :dono Just part of the enjoyment of crappie fishing I guess.

crappyman
09-22-2012, 09:41 AM
In my experience, I notice that it is not the size of bait fish in area as much as the mood the fish are in.

This is so true. I have seen slabs on samll lakes hit a full size rattle traps at times and other times the same lake the crappie will only hit a 1/64 oz 1.5" tube spider rigged really slow. Crappie will hit what they are feeding on at any given time. This is where knowing the seasons, the different algae blooms and insect hatches help us find and catch fish fast on a particular lake at a particular time of the year. Crappie also have to compete with larger more dominant fish, Bass, Pike, Chain Pickerel, catfish, etc.. they don't always get to eat baitfish so they move on to insects, daphnia and copepods. We just have to make the right decisions based on the environment we are in at any given time.
Just some of my thoughts on this.

blackxpress
09-22-2012, 04:52 PM
Rules are made to be broken. I caught a 30" Pike while jigging for perch with a small minnow on a Mr. Crappie hook on 6 lb. test. Dangdest thing I ever saw.

Dutch552
09-22-2012, 07:02 PM
I catch a lot of dinks on 3" and 3 1/2" crankbaits all year while crappie and walleye fishing. Lots of shad in my home lake in that size range so I am in the camp of they'll eat whatever they're used to seeing.

KDAVID1
09-22-2012, 08:54 PM
I agree with Nimrod on the bigger size. As well when I am spider rigging--I get the biggest minnows I can get (but not bass minnows of course)

crappiedoc
09-23-2012, 12:16 AM
This is so true. I have seen slabs on samll lakes hit a full size rattle traps at times and other times the same lake the crappie will only hit a 1/64 oz 1.5" tube spider rigged really slow. Crappie will hit what they are feeding on at any given time. This is where knowing the seasons, the different algae blooms and insect hatches help us find and catch fish fast on a particular lake at a particular time of the year. Crappie also have to compete with larger more dominant fish, Bass, Pike, Chain Pickerel, catfish, etc.. they don't always get to eat baitfish so they move on to insects, daphnia and copepods. We just have to make the right decisions based on the environment we are in at any given time.
Just some of my thoughts on this.


This is very true, when neutral or deep in a brush pile they will snack on the salad bar. Those algaes and mosses that grow on the branches are loaded with proteins in insect and crustacean forms. I'd almost venture a guess that crappie eat these things more than shad or minnows, but the baitfish make them big. I too have caught some real pigs on Panfish Assassins, I've also caught some pigs on 5" bass/walleye plastics. However, I've also noticed some lakes that nothing will hit BIG baits. Just keep feeding them what they'll eat.

Tony from Oak Point
09-23-2012, 11:20 PM
One thing I've noticed too is that the same tree might produce some fish with a 1/8th jig, then a 1/16 jig, then a 1/32 jig or vice versa.

wademaster
09-24-2012, 09:57 AM
My biggest crappie ever was caught on a 4" Rapala Flat Rap while i was bass fishing; my next biggest crappie was caught on a normal sized blue gill minnow under a float; and my third biggest was caught on a 4" plastic worm while bass fishing also; like previously mentioned, it's all about the mood i guess, i but more than anything remember the more you fish the more big ones you will catch no matter what size bait your using; cant catch them if you don't go

NIMROD
09-25-2012, 09:19 PM
My biggest crappie ever was caught on a 4" Rapala Flat Rap while i was bass fishing; my next biggest crappie was caught on a normal sized blue gill minnow under a float; and my third biggest was caught on a 4" plastic worm while bass fishing also; like previously mentioned, it's all about the mood i guess, i but more than anything remember the more you fish the more big ones you will catch no matter what size bait your using; cant catch them if you don't go



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