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Fall Flight Retrievers
07-20-2012, 07:27 AM
What's the advantages of pushing crankbaits vs pulling them?

Rees Guide
07-20-2012, 07:38 AM
Alot of folks here doing both, pushing on the front and pulling on the back. Only advantage I see is being able to turn quicker when pushing.

CrappiePappy
07-20-2012, 07:39 AM
Probably "control" .... as in depth control, quicker/shorter turning radius, & staying in line with the tracking of the boats path.

The biggest "con" I can think of, is that pushing cranks is generally done with poles that place the cranks in front of what your depthfinder is seeing ... which could lead to more hang-ups, since your baits could be finding the brush BEFORE you saw it on the depthfinder.

:dono really, since I'm not a crankbait pusher/puller to any great degree. Just postulating.

... cp :cool:

Fall Flight Retrievers
07-20-2012, 08:50 AM
I pull 3 poles out each side and 2 out of the back. I have 4 ft separation between lines. I generally run the rear poles deeper than the side. I have had very few line tangles on turns..thanks for the responses

Daily fishin
07-20-2012, 09:17 AM
For those of us without a clue, can someone explain "pushing" a Crank? I could guess "pulling". And is it safe to assume a "Crank" is a crank bait? Instead of casting and reeling you are trolling?

Just trying to figure this out.

Fall Flight Retrievers
07-20-2012, 09:26 AM
Pushing a crankbait...the poles are out in front of the boat similar to spider rigging. Pulling crankbaits...the poles are out the side and he back of the boat and different amounts of line are let out to make the crankbaits run at different depths...you are correct both methods are trolling.

Daily fishin
07-20-2012, 09:29 AM
Great! Thanks.

CrappiePappy
07-20-2012, 09:57 AM
And when "pushing" ... a large weight is used on the line, above or below the crankbait, to keep the crank at a specific depth ... as well as keep it below the rod tip (+/-). Long rods are used to keep the weight/crank well out in front of the trolling motor prop !!

... cp :cool:

Daily fishin
07-20-2012, 10:28 AM
I attempt to fish out of a kayak so a 7' rod is the longest I use. Even then it looks like a Cajun Fire Drill! Hooking a tree, lines tangled, getting caught in the gear bag... So far I can catch anything but fish!

Rees Guide
07-20-2012, 10:49 AM
Will say this, its funny how the pushed baits work and the pulled ones arent catching and vise versa. Kinda like last Saturday, my cousin took one side of the boat and I the other, it was forever before I caught a fish and he was very busy then it changed and I was the one catching em, just that way sometimes. Crappie is more fickled than a woman every thought about being.!!!!

bkabina
07-20-2012, 12:22 PM
If your pushing a crankbait, how does the weight used effect the depth that the crankbait will run? If that makes sense.

Example. If you have a crankbait that runs 4ft. deep but your pushing it with a 1/2 to 1 oz. weight 2ft. Above it and the weight is down 10ft. in the water, what depth is the bait going to run?

Would it run below or even with the weight?

And how far should the weight be from the crankbait?

wilbur
07-20-2012, 05:59 PM
Depending on the crank it should run below the weight. But your not going to push with a 1oz. weight. You will need too much line out to get 10ft. Just guessin I would say 30ft. A 3oz weight is the smallest you can run to push. With a 3oz. and 15ft. of line is about 10ft. deep. You forget you should run between 1.3 to 1.7 mph.

E-Z Poleholder
07-20-2012, 06:43 PM
Pushing cranks,, 3 oz is good to start with. There are times when u may want more or less, but not very often. U'll need the weight tied to ur line with a 3-4 ft leader then ur crank. (see Scottv for these). The objective is to get ur speed and weight adjusted to where ur line going into the water is at a 45 degree angle. From there u can figure the crank depth by taking 2/3 rds of the amount of line out. An example is if u have 15 feet of line out, that is from where it goes into the water, then ur crank should be 10 ft deep.
45 deg I can figure in my head but Anything other than the 45 degrees, I would have to have my calculator.

Dutch552
07-20-2012, 09:51 PM
Will say this, its funny how the pushed baits work and the pulled ones arent catching and vise versa. Kinda like last Saturday, my cousin took one side of the boat and I the other, it was forever before I caught a fish and he was very busy then it changed and I was the one catching em, just that way sometimes. Crappie is more fickled than a woman every thought about being.!!!!

This happens all the time where I fish, last week it was my two rods pushing up front that I couldn't keep fish off of while I was picking up the scraps on the 6 rods out the back.