I was out trolling this after noon. I used a back and sliver AND A mad cow bandit with a 2 oz about 4 ft in front of it and just slam the little bass. No crappie. First time i ever used a lead wieght in front like that. I was running lot more line but i was also staying in 30 to 40 of water. Gould see a lot of fish on finder. I only tryied Virgin buff area.