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fatrap
05-12-2012, 07:22 AM
After reading here at CDC about the benefits of Hi-viz line I finally got some 4 lb Mr. Crappie yellow line. I usually cast 1/16 oz jigs when the crappie are shallow. The line makes a world of difference in detecting bites. I am convinced about the usefulness of the product. BUT, the Mr. Crappie is constantly wrapped around my pole or around my reel or falling off the reel in a snarl. True it is cheap, about $7.00 for a half mile of line. Are the more expensive lines, Suffix or Vicious or hi-viz stren easier to use? They all advertise Limp, etc.

Mike Andrews
05-12-2012, 07:24 AM
In a word...yes

satdoc1
05-12-2012, 07:28 AM
X2

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GoneCrappieFishing
05-12-2012, 08:03 AM
I use the (Flourescent green) Pline cxx x-tra strong monofilament line but you wont find it at Wally World though. I order mine from BPS online, and it cost $12.99 a 600 yrd roll. Easy to see line during the day, as it's high vis, a small diameter at 0.230 mm at 6 lb test. Strong stuff, small enough diameter, and easy to see all in one package. I've been using it for about 3 or 4 years now, and I love it. I also use the crystal clear in the same line at times when I dont want the hi vis.. Just works for me, so I stick with it. Shows up well for night fishing too.

CrappiePappy
05-12-2012, 08:31 AM
After reading here at CDC about the benefits of Hi-viz line I finally got some 4 lb Mr. Crappie yellow line. I usually cast 1/16 oz jigs when the crappie are shallow. The line makes a world of difference in detecting bites. I am convinced about the usefulness of the product. BUT, the Mr. Crappie is constantly wrapped around my pole or around my reel or falling off the reel in a snarl. True it is cheap, about $7.00 for a half mile of line. Are the more expensive lines, Suffix or Vicious or hi-viz stren easier to use? They all advertise Limp, etc.

That could be the result of incorrectly spooling the line on your reel, or your jig spinning during casting ... both of which will cause the line to twist & tangle. Another possibility is that you've spooled too much line onto your reel (which might account for the line jumping off in snarls/loops).

Try this .... take the outfit out into the yard & let out about 1/2 of the spool of line off your reel into the grass, as you walk around the yard. Close the bail & pinch the line, in front of the reel, between your finger & thumb ... then reel in the line with the rod tip down in the grass. Once you get the line to within 1/8" of the edge of your spool ... stop & cut off any remaining line.

You can also drag 1/3 - 1/2 of the line in the water, as you idle along in your boat ... then do the same proceedure. What you are in effect doing, is using the drag/friction of the grass or water to uncoil the line back into a straighter alignment & putting it back on the reel with tension. There isn't much tension retrieving a 1/16oz bait, so the line gets loosely wrapped around the reel spool. A spinning jig/bait is usually caused by a wrist snap overhand cast. You can diminish that happening, by slowing down your rod motion & making your cast in a more smooth motion.

Try one of these, before you give up on the line ... it may not be the fault of the line, at all.

... cp :cool:

Blackhawk19
05-12-2012, 11:16 AM
X2 on all everything crappiepappy said! Also on a spinning reel it's best to close the bail by hand and give the line a little tug before you start winding. This also stops the line from looping on the reel.

jusanothajoe
05-12-2012, 12:41 PM
x2 on all everything crappiepappy said! Also on a spinning reel it's best to close the bail by hand and give the line a little tug before you start winding. This also stops the line from looping on the reel.
x2

wilbur
05-12-2012, 04:25 PM
Its made in China, What did you expect. Try Vicious Hi-Viz

fatrap
05-12-2012, 04:41 PM
I think that several of you have hit on parts of the problem. The comment about the Mr. Crappie being made in China hits home too since I am always hollering 'BUY AMERICAN". We must all do a better job of buying american. To kind of offer an excuse, there was no other 4 lb. hi-vis in Poplar Bluff when I got the wild hair. And I am impulsive as the dickens.

kingkrappie
05-12-2012, 08:41 PM
Pline, drive a little southeast fatrap you can get all you need

gabowman
05-12-2012, 08:46 PM
I have switched to Viscious but never had any problems with the hi-vis Mr Crappie and I used that line for a few years. Sounds liek youre spooling the line on backwards to me....I'm just guessing though.

Fisherman_Wantabe
05-12-2012, 09:03 PM
X2 on all everything crappiepappy said! Also on a spinning reel it's best to close the bail by hand and give the line a little tug before you start winding. This also stops the line from looping on the reel.

Works for me! :highfive

deathb4disco
05-12-2012, 09:15 PM
I've been using the P-line CX Premium -- outstanding line. It's also one of the very few lines sold in North America where the breaking strain on the box is accurate.

ifish
05-13-2012, 02:00 AM
Check your line roller on the bail. Might just need some oil or could be an inherent problem with your brand of reel. The main function of the line roller is to eliminate line twist. I like Suffix or Vicious on my long rods .I like Power Pro for casting. No lne twist period!

CrappiePappy
05-13-2012, 07:26 AM
I think that several of you have hit on parts of the problem. The comment about the Mr. Crappie being made in China hits home too since I am always hollering 'BUY AMERICAN". We must all do a better job of buying american. To kind of offer an excuse, there was no other 4 lb. hi-vis in Poplar Bluff when I got the wild hair. And I am impulsive as the dickens.

Might be splitting hairs ... but, Mr Crappie Line is now made in Taiwan. My spool of Mr Crappie Super Hi-vis was "Made in USA", but it's 6 or 7 yrs old, or more. I've used Stren Gold 4# - Vicious hi-vis 4# - and they both compare well with the USA Mr Crappie line. I still don't think the problem lies with the line, but with improper spooling &/or overfilling. If the line was prone to breaking easily, that might be an indication of poor quality control or a rush job with cheap components ... but, I doubt it being made "overseas" would be the cause of the twist.

... cp :cool:

hawgdog
05-13-2012, 07:35 AM
Very well said. Even if I don't have problems, I always let it out in my yard and re-spool it. I've been told this for years.
That could be the result of incorrectly spooling the line on your reel, or your jig spinning during casting ... both of which will cause the line to twist & tangle. Another possibility is that you've spooled too much line onto your reel (which might account for the line jumping off in snarls/loops).

Try this .... take the outfit out into the yard & let out about 1/2 of the spool of line off your reel into the grass, as you walk around the yard. Close the bail & pinch the line, in front of the reel, between your finger & thumb ... then reel in the line with the rod tip down in the grass. Once you get the line to within 1/8" of the edge of your spool ... stop & cut off any remaining line.

You can also drag 1/3 - 1/2 of the line in the water, as you idle along in your boat ... then do the same proceedure. What you are in effect doing, is using the drag/friction of the grass or water to uncoil the line back into a straighter alignment & putting it back on the reel with tension. There isn't much tension retrieving a 1/16oz bait, so the line gets loosely wrapped around the reel spool. A spinning jig/bait is usually caused by a wrist snap overhand cast. You can diminish that happening, by slowing down your rod motion & making your cast in a more smooth motion.

Try one of these, before you give up on the line ... it may not be the fault of the line, at all.

... cp :cool:

genec
05-13-2012, 07:51 AM
I use mr crappie all the time and like it,as already said how its wind and how much line,also on lite baits is best to pull line tight after cast,one more thing,if drag is too lose and you wind reel with out line coming will twist line a big fish while winding can cause this if unexperience.but if line is twisting around tip of rod ,your line is twisted on reel and must be done as already said by others

ricky
05-13-2012, 08:33 AM
Check this outHow to Cast a Spinning Reel and catch more fish - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUurIgE2H8U&feature=g-vrec)

DENNIS WILLIS
05-14-2012, 05:30 PM
I say you can't beat P-Line, I have used it for years it is tough stuff, I got hung up and no crap I drug the boat a little bit on 4#. I also use the 10# and 12# on my bass rods.When I cast a plug I load the rod up and did use Big Game line and tossed a lots of plugs off on the cast and some of them cost 20.00 and that will make a man say a few words not allowed on here.

EARL KITCHENS
05-14-2012, 06:05 PM
I have the HI VIS P LINE 4# on my dock shooting rods and it shoots great. I tie on my 1/24 oz jigs with a loop knot. The only problem I am having is the knot strength seems very week. I am going to do a test tonight on the breaking point of the knot with my weighing scale. I wet the knot every time before I cinch it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. These older eyes need HI VIS!!!

deathb4disco
05-14-2012, 08:07 PM
I tie on my 1/24 oz jigs with a loop knot.

Which loop knot? The non-slip mono loop tests at right around 100% and is THE standard loop knot used in light tackle fishing.


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