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birddog one
01-28-2012, 12:45 PM
I'm trying to learn to spider rig what is the best rod lenth for a newbe? Most of water I fish is stained a best. I
mainly vert jig now with 10' 11' 0r 12' rods

feelay
01-28-2012, 01:07 PM
I used 12' ers for many years with good success. I now prefer 14' ers. Either will work fine, the 14's just give you a wider spread and more distance from the bow.

Hillbilly910
01-28-2012, 01:10 PM
exactly whay feelay said. Started with 12's, i now prefer 14's.

becks
01-28-2012, 01:22 PM
I just made the transfer from 11' 12's to 14' for spider rigging. Haven't had the 14's out yet, but put them together and man do they seem ackward. Its going to take me some time to get use to.

astro92
01-28-2012, 01:51 PM
I'm just starting also I want to spider rig and longline. I work at Bass Pro and they had some rods on clearence so I bought 4 12' light Crappie Maxx and 2 14' mh Crappie Maxx. So did I get to light and to heavy or can I work with what I bought.

yellowjacket
01-28-2012, 03:45 PM
astro92 u have thejob i want to u guys get discounts on what u buy?

"G"
01-28-2012, 03:48 PM
Yep....I used 10's and 12's for awhile but really like the 14's I have now. Its hard to beat 14 ft. B'nM Capps and Coleman trolling rods for spider rigging

birddog one
01-28-2012, 04:22 PM
is there a learning curve 12' vs 14' ? It seems everone start out shorter than 14' and moved up to them I've never spider rigged before so I have alot to learn. Just trying to buy what I need with out wanting to up grade next year. 8 rods and reels are not a cheep if you buy the stuff that will last.

Dutch552
01-28-2012, 04:52 PM
I've used 12, 14 and 16 foot rods and went back to the 12' rods for my all around rods for spider rigging, pulling and pushing.

LittleJohn
01-28-2012, 05:43 PM
Though I use 2 14 footers,beleive I like all twelves better.
LittleJohn

lcookie
01-28-2012, 06:00 PM
Before you buy you could test it out with the 10's through 12's you have now. It is not for everyone so you may save some money tha way. Back to your question longer is better to me as the spread is wider and further away from the boat. I run 10 poles out the front ranging from 12 to 18 now.

skeetbum
01-28-2012, 06:09 PM
I just picked up 3 more 12's to finish my spread. I consider myself still in the discovery period, as to what is and isn't my style of fishing. Til now I couldn't buy anything specific and everything had to do double duty. I started with 8's, 9's, 10's and 12's, 2 of each. what I now have is 5 - 12's and 3 - 10's. The 8's work very well for the vertical jigging I do, and too short for the spread. The 9's are tightlines and too bony for my taste, and before I sell em I'm going to try my hand at pulling cranks. The 10's and 12's work very well for my spread, and most times I can't keep up with 8 rods anyway. I figure the 5 - 12's will get the most play, and I don't see the need for 3 piece rods for the fishing I do. All these but one are BnM because of the availability of replacement tips should one go south. That's been my learning curve, hope it helps answer some questions for those starting out.

astro92
01-28-2012, 06:09 PM
What action for long lining and spider rigging?

feeshrman
01-28-2012, 06:50 PM
for spider rigging make sure you get trolling poles. They do make 14&16 foot jigging poles, these are no good for trolling. they do not have enough backbone in them to control your fish and keep it away from your other lines. The trolling poles that b&m and c&c make, have the right combination of backbone and a sensitive tip. jmo

rnvinc
01-28-2012, 09:45 PM
The only disadvantage I've found in longer rods is when spider riggin in shallow water...

With very little line out... And a hooked fish... It is difficult to get the fish in the boat ....unless I either let line out or stick the butt of the rod behind me in the boat...

It's an inconvenience but not an impossibility...

Rickie

gone_fishing
01-29-2012, 07:06 AM
man I would be broke if I worked at BPS.

crappiedoc
01-29-2012, 07:06 AM
We have a couple oldtimers that use those long, long rods for ice fishing. They sit facing each other and cordon off half an acre. I'd be scared that I would poke my partners or the party next to me eyes out. You know you have a long rod when AT&T shows up and spools some phone cable across it. I read one of Duckmans posts, and he likes them long to keep the lines out of the tm. He's got some good videos too. Sure seems like a lot of action.

BJH
01-29-2012, 07:56 AM
God....thats got to be BORING!!!!!!Sitting in a boat with 8 rods fanned out trolling along. I think i would take up golf first!:yikes

astro92
01-29-2012, 09:21 AM
You are right gone_fishing, you would be broke, cause they don't pay enough to even use the discount. You would still have to save up! Ya'll got me thinking that the 12's (light action,1/16-1/4oz,4-12lb) is going to be to light to use. Do u think I should take them back?

skeetbum
01-29-2012, 10:11 AM
God....thats got to be BORING!!!!!!Sitting in a boat with 8 rods fanned out trolling along. I think i would take up golf first!:yikes

Cow Pasture Pool----PHOOOEY!!!

MEATGETTER
01-29-2012, 10:50 AM
i use 14ft capps &coleman love em!!!!!!!!!!! go on and get the 14ft and be done.

Stymie
01-29-2012, 10:54 AM
I use 8 16 foot BnM Pro Trolling Rods for spider rigging. In shallow water, I thumb the spool to get enough line out and lift the rod tip to get the fish close to the boat and then either haul him in or net him.

birddog one
01-29-2012, 03:32 PM
i use 14ft capps &coleman love em!!!!!!!!!!! go on and get the 14ft and be done.

Done Thanks for the push

Ronnie Capps
01-31-2012, 07:59 AM
Hi there !

Just thought I would give my 2 cents worth. If you are just getting started the best length rod is a 12 ft. Very easy to handle compared to the 14's or 16's. I always have 2 sets of poles at hand.
1 set(8) of BnM BGJP 's (14's) rigged with single jigs only.
1 set (8) of BnM CCT 's (14's) rigged with double minnow rigs.

These two sets of rods will do the job on most of this country's lakes year around.

A third set of rods will become important during the post spawn months when temps rise into the higher ranges . It is a set (8) BnM Pro Staff 14 's rigged with Bandit Cranks.


Good Fishn !!


Ronnie Capps

feeshrman
01-31-2012, 08:49 PM
Don't knock it till you've tried it. I still single pole occassionaly, but i don't feel like i'm reaching my full potential. Their's nothing like getting two or three fish on @ a time, sometimes two on the same pole. Everybody gets their kicks in different ways but I can honestly say I've never caught more or bigger fish any other way.
God....thats got to be BORING!!!!!!Sitting in a boat with 8 rods fanned out trolling along. I think i would take up golf first!:yikes

Handicrappie
01-31-2012, 10:03 PM
Any reason you don't use two jigs similar to the way you have your minnow rigs set up instead of just one? Thanks in advance Ronnie.

Ronnie Capps
02-02-2012, 08:02 PM
I really let depth determine my set. Crappie will bite either a jig or a minnow most any time. With my thinking the major thing is putting a bait in front of their face. I "single jig rig" in shallow water(7 ft or less) or heavy cover or both for several reasons. Much easier to punch loose when snagged according to rod length. Fish in 7 ft or less will find one bait as quick as they will two with half the trouble of the extra hook/bait. When I fish deeper than 7 to 10 the the Minnow Rig Set becomes my priority set. This takes a bit longer to store, bait, unhang, etc. than the single jig set however the extra bait surely helps when fish are located at a variety of depths.

Good Fishn !!

RC

Handicrappie
02-02-2012, 09:16 PM
Thanks for the input.