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goofy1
10-15-2011, 10:46 AM
I am ordering a 18 PFC xpress with 115 yam 4 stroke. In there center console boats they spray and paint instead of carpet. I had a 2007 war eagle predator for a year and a half and sold it do to times then. Ordered it without carpet and it was made with vinyl interior and it was great to keep but the boat was load and noisy on runs on the lake. Didn't know if carpet would have been a lot quieter in rattles and noise. Any thoughts?

jimp
10-15-2011, 03:50 PM
I would think that carpet would reduce the noise generated from rattles, gear, etc, and when running down the water. I would also think that the wind noise would drown out most rattles, etc. as well. I have carpet in my tracker PT175 and like it. I actually got to see a G3 with vinyl today at a dealership. Seems nice, but I do like carpet for some reason. I asked if the vinyl is any hotter out in the sun and the guy said that the hinges and seat plates get more heat, and vinyl is a little bit hotter. If I had to make a decision, don't know which way I would go either.

shipahoy41
10-15-2011, 04:03 PM
I would think that carpet would reduce the noise generated from rattles, gear, etc, and when running down the water. I would also think that the wind noise would drown out most rattles, etc. as well.

I have had three boats. Two Jon boats and one tracker. All were carpeted to reduce noises.

Splitshot82
10-15-2011, 04:30 PM
I like carpet. A lot of guys like the vinyl for ease of cleaning, but to me carpet is much better. It is cooler to the touch and is a good sound insulator. I hate fishing shallow and dropping something in the bottom of an aluminum boat to hear it clang around. Carpet makes the whole boat quieter IMO. Better traction when wet too.

Crappie 1
10-15-2011, 04:46 PM
I've had both. The boat we now have is vinyl over wood, not too noisy. We catch too many Pike to have carpet...

Good Stuff
10-15-2011, 04:49 PM
I hate carpet in a boat. My boat has it but if I were going to buy new it would'nt. I hate trying to scrub out fish slime from my carpet.

Blackhawk19
10-15-2011, 04:53 PM
Carpet reduces noise but also is harder to clean, you just have to figure out how messy you will be DohRofl I prefer carpet

"G"
10-15-2011, 04:55 PM
[QUOTE=Good Stuff;1672746]I hate carpet in a boat. My boat has it but if I were going to buy new it would'nt. I hate trying to scrub out fish slime from my carpet.[/QUOT
Thats how I feel as well. I bought a new boat back in the spring, no carpet, it has a non skid rubberized coating on the inside of the boat and floor. It must be insulated pretty good under the floor because it is pretty quiet. It is a light color and is very cool. I like it, I don't ever want carpet again.

goofy1
10-15-2011, 05:23 PM
Well I was told that xpress filled there boat with foam and it dampened the noise. The war eagle with vinyl I had I don't think had any but don't know. I can tell you it was not really hotter than carpet at all. I do not know what xpress does but I do not think it is vinyl but spray and paint. Don't know if that is good or bad compared to vinyl.

Little Skeeter
10-15-2011, 06:01 PM
I have never had a problem removing slime from my carpet, nor anything else like grease even. Must be the quality of carpet.

gabowman
10-15-2011, 06:05 PM
I've always had uncarpeted boats until buying my last one back in the spring. Now I have to be WAY more particlar on what comes in the boat (dirt/mud included) and how it's handled 'cause I dont like all the extra cleaning the carpet requires. For example...I sorta wanted to do some catfishing over the summer months but didnt mainly because of all the slime that gets into a boat when youre catching some bigger fish. I woulda hated having to scrub all that out.:rolleyes: I guess I'm lazy.RoflRofl For crappie fishing using jigs....I like the carpet. Minnow fishing...I step on too many and would prefer NOT to have carpet.

Good Stuff
10-15-2011, 06:23 PM
I have never had a problem removing slime from my carpet, nor anything else like grease even. Must be the quality of carpet.
How do you do it?
What do you use to remove it?

specseeker
10-15-2011, 06:38 PM
My partner and I have owned several boats over the years and we both agree that no carpet is the right answer for us.
We have tried the vinyl coverings offered by both Duracraft and War Eagle and didn't like either one. Over time the vinyl can cut and peel. We tried Rhino Lining sprayed in and it was great until it got wet and then it gets slick.
The best covering that we have found is LineX. It's a tough, easy to clean by power washing and most importantly safe to walk on when wet. If you elect to use the LineX you don't want the boat factory to paint any of the surfaces you want covered as the product adheres much better. We currently own a War Eagle 2060 model and couldn't be happier.We've recommended LineX to several friends that are happy with the product as well.
Hope this helps.

Little Skeeter
10-15-2011, 06:39 PM
How do you do it?
What do you use to remove it?

Just a car wash

hunter7711
10-15-2011, 06:44 PM
I would never own a boat without carpet.

Tank 1
10-15-2011, 06:45 PM
My last three boats have had carpet, and if I ever do get another one it will not have carpet.

Little Skeeter
10-15-2011, 06:58 PM
I have owned them with and without. With is what I prefer, but each person has their particular needs. Mostly just having a boat is what its all about, everything else is just gravy over the biscuits!

Tank 1
10-15-2011, 07:04 PM
I have owned them with and without. With is what I prefer, but each person has their particular needs. Mostly just having a boat is what its all about, everything else is just gravy over the biscuits!

So true...

goofy1
10-15-2011, 07:43 PM
Xpress has some kind of spray in that they coat or paint. Don't know for sure

Blackhawk19
10-15-2011, 07:58 PM
i have owned them with and without. With is what i prefer, but each person has their particular needs. Mostly just having a boat is what its all about, everything else is just gravy over the biscuits!

x2

Slabs Inc
10-15-2011, 08:06 PM
If you don't catfish get carpet. Congrats on the new boat, I loved my xpress.

PIGINTHEPIGPEN
10-16-2011, 12:03 AM
i would never own a boat without carpet.
x2

cache22
10-16-2011, 08:10 AM
Go with the carpet! get a good net to keep fish off the carpet as much as possible..... straight from net to live well. Real slimers like catfish don't even bring in the boat...straight to live well.

ProGrizz
10-16-2011, 09:51 AM
I run a 20' Grizzly. It didn't come with carpet. After about 3 years of slippin' and slidin' when wet and hotter that the Dickens in the Summer, I installed carpet. Best thing I've done.

Slab Junkie
10-16-2011, 04:35 PM
My last two had carpet, my current rig doesn't. It has the sprayed in liner like a sprayed in truck bed liner. I don't think I will ever have another boat with carpet again.

earl 1234
10-16-2011, 06:29 PM
We have a bare 1848 Grizzly . I took a sheet of 1/2 MDO plywood ,covered it with carpet , glued and stapled . We also made a back section just like it and added bases for swivel seats . Takes very little effort to take them out and pressure wash them and reinstall. They just sit in the boat with no fasteners .

crappiefarmer
10-16-2011, 09:10 PM
My next boat will have no carpet. Just hose out the boat when through fishing and put up. No worrying about keeping your feet clean when many boat ramps have dirt or gravel parking lots which equals mud sticking to Your shoes and getting on Your carpet. Don't want a boat that is going to start feeling like work. Easier to keep clean the better in My opinion.CF

Cane Pole
10-16-2011, 09:48 PM
Boats without carpet are cheeeeezie!

feelay
10-16-2011, 09:53 PM
I have an 1886SE Polarkraft with vinyl. It gets hot in the summer, slick in the winter. That being said, I desperately want a Ranger intracoastal....white non skid saltwater boat type surface. I smash lots of minnows and don't want the hassel of cleaning carpet.

das speck hunter
10-16-2011, 11:07 PM
If your gonna garage keep it and pressure wash it on low pressure. Carpet will be fine, stay clean and not stink. If you want to fish, go without.
The majority of noise comes from hull slap which is unavoidable. Noise come from walking around is easy to fix. As I say whenever I fish with someone else "STOP MOVIN ROUND YOUR MAKING MY ROD TIPS BOUNCE!!!!!". hahahahha

Don G
10-17-2011, 01:42 AM
I like the idea of snap in carpet over vinyl.Thumbs Up.When it gets dirty, remove and spray wash..I know Lund has this option..Don't know if others do..

boat49
10-17-2011, 10:36 AM
I have a Bay Charger center console, white with some type of non skid pattern all over the inside where you would walk. It's not noisy when running across the water, it doesn't get hot under foot at all, even during our record heat this past summer!, and its a breeze to clean. I would never have carpet. Oh, I do fish barefoot alot and the non skid is not hard on your feet at all. That's my .02 for what its worth! :)

working man
10-17-2011, 11:56 AM
I have a 2005 20 ft. xpress with the sprayed in liner, it seems plenty durable, and noise doesn,t seem to be a problem as far as the crappie and the catfish are concerned. I also don't notice much noise when I'm running other than the wind. The only thing to watch for is not to wear a shoe with a hard peice of plastic (some have this in the area of the arch support) on the bottom because with only a little water this will turn the hinges into something akin to ice that has been sprayed with silicone and buffed to a smooth finish. I personally wouldn,t trade my sprayed in finish for carpet due to the fact that I also run the Missouri river. When you get out on a sandbar to make lunch or whatever you drag alot of sand back in the boat (or should I say the kids do). With carpet you end up sandblasting your face for several minutes when you resume running. Without carpet this only lasts a few seconds. I know a lot of guys that crappie fish and also have carpeted boats. The ones that don't seem to mind the carpet have very dirty carpet. The ones that have clean carpet complain about how hard it is to get slime out of it after a week of baking in on an extended trip. Something a little off topic but relative to you... When I bought my xpress they put cheap bias tires on the trailer. I only got 300 to 400 miles a peice out of both tires and the spare. If they are still doing this you may want to invest in some radials right away. Mine wore away suddenly and all at once, losing well over 3/4 of the tread on the outer and inner portions of each tire on the same trip, the spare on the next trip. More than a little scary when you get home and see your tires are suddenly well past needing replaced.

Backwaters
10-17-2011, 12:59 PM
Well I was told that xpress filled there boat with foam and it dampened the noise. The war eagle with vinyl I had I don't think had any but don't know. I can tell you it was not really hotter than carpet at all. I do not know what xpress does but I do not think it is vinyl but spray and paint. Don't know if that is good or bad compared to vinyl.
Xpress does fill between the floor and hull with foam. That same foam will eventually break down and absorb water which creates alot of weight and a chemical reaction with the aluminum that will eventually leave pin holes. The foam is supposed to be closed cell and it is until pressure is applied to it by walking on it, then it breaks the "closed" cell down to absorb water.

War Eagle does have foam in their boats but they allow for an air gap around it and do not clog up the water drainage.

To answer your original question...

Carpet is the best for dampening noise and best in the heat, but is a pain to clean.
Spray in liner is best for clean up and durability, decent dampening noise and for heat.
Vinyl is easy to clean, decent in the heat but lacks the durability of the spray in liner.

goofy1
10-28-2011, 11:01 PM
Well. Looks like I am about to order Monday. According to factory it is a spray in liner xpress uses which is like a spray in on your truck. After applying and boat is ready for paint they paint it same color as boat. I have decided to go with the Silver color they offer because I think it would look better being a matching floor then going with an 18 PFC in red or yellow with red or yellow floors. I liked the War Eagle predator that had the vinyl because you could just spray it out and go. This should be great. Has anyone seen or heard of anyone that has gotten an xpress 18 PFC with spray in floor instead of carpet? Factory said would not be slippery when wet only if ice. I cannot wait to get it ordered. I am also putting a power pole so I can fish during spawn when they are shallow and I want to hold boat to fish a spot without having to stay on trolling motor constantly to fish a spot. Do you think that the power pole would be a good option

BigRiverMarine
10-29-2011, 12:10 AM
I think I could get Xpress to color the liner a gray color if you wanted a red or yellow boat. I can ask them Monday if you'd like me to. As for carpet, I've had boats with and without, and the main factor for me was the heat. In the summer months the carpet will be 20+ degrees cooler than metal, liner or vinyl. Vinyl wears out faster, and looks bad when it fades and tears. Liner is quiet, but still very hot. Metal is HOT!! I catfish some, and if you let the slime dry, it brushes out. If you get excessive amounts of slime, still let it dry, brush it out, and rinse with a little water. If you stain it, just use a product like your wife uses to remove stains from your clothes. She'll know what to use on a non chemical stain. I've used carpet in my Ranger, and my last two demo's, and that is my preference, and I don't spend a lot of time cleaning it, just general cleaning like any boat. It looks good too, but again, the biggest factor for me is the heat. I just can't stand the heat from the other materials. It's like being in a frying pan when there's no wind, and usually in the summer, the wind is fairly calm.

BTW, the foam in the Xpress won't absorb water. It's a totally different material than the older foam that everybody used to use.

BRM

89ranger
10-29-2011, 12:17 AM
Have to try line x because I am at the point of being tired of replacing carpet and good quality. I was thinking about rubber flooring I know this company that give you a life time warranty

goofy1
10-29-2011, 09:00 AM
Well I don't know about spray in liner on metal and being hot. I know my vinyl floor in war eagle was not hot at all. Now spray in I don't know. That rubber sounds great. Sure is hard decision. Especially when paying $27000 for an aluminum boat. Carpet I know is nice and my bass boat was easy to keep clean. Only had to vacuum about 4 times a year. But I didn't have minnows in it all the time. Or a bait well I I'm looking to buy for shad to hunt summer stripers and hybrids. Plus I like going to La trout and red fishing once a year. Dang hard decision!! May not be ready Monday. What about a power pole?

alamancecreek
10-29-2011, 09:14 AM
I have vinyl on the main floor of my boat with a drain in the middle. Carpet on the front deck and it's pretty easy to keep clean this way. Spray the carpet towards the center of the boat, everything runs out the drain in the middle of the vinyl. The vinyl is not hot but can get a little slick if it gets wet. Also, make sure if you use any soap at all on the floor that you rinse really really really good. Next time it rains on you while your on the lake, you'll have a slip and slide on the vinyl, promise you that.

BigRiverMarine
10-29-2011, 02:51 PM
I'm sure with your wife's heart condition, heat is a no no in the warmer months. The vinyl may not get hot, I've never personally used it, but it does get slippery, and could cause a fall. It also wears out, and tears in heavy traffic spots, like where your feet go in front of the seats. I've seen that on several trade ins. Like Feelay said earlier, the vinyl and the liners get a bit slick. I do like the liner better than vinyl, from what I've seen, its tougher.

goofy1
10-29-2011, 03:44 PM
Yeah summer she just floats on float. Be nice this next year to take her out and get the float out next to boat and have good ladder to get in and out not one of those cheap small ones with two steps. Xpress has some nice ones