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Bigbill
07-14-2011, 11:11 AM
ok so i have a throw net and catch shad for drift fishing for blues on Grand, normal ops. Here is the stupid question......i have seen alot of this years shad hatch up in my favorite cove on stockton, have any of you ever used small shad for bait and used them as you would minnows for crappie? Now that you have picked yourself up off the floor from laughing, i would like to hear your opinions on this matter. Seems to me they would work really good this time of year.

Bigbill
07-14-2011, 11:33 AM
lol see 15 views already and your all laughing so hard you cant even type.....Rofl

Kit Papermouth
07-14-2011, 11:42 AM
Eufaula Boy uses shad a lot. Hard thing is to keep them alive. They aren't very hardy on a hook and they don't stay alive long in a minnow bucket. Need a large volume of moving water to keep them alive in a boat. They can't be beat for bait.

Bigbill
07-14-2011, 12:02 PM
I have a shad box we use when hybrid fishing or catfishing. I caught a shad last friday in the bait ball that was under the boat last friday night ( had the old green light out ) put him on the hook and sent him down. It didnt even make it to 10ft when i had one on thats what got me wondering about it. I have always just used minnows, Is keeping the shad alive the big stopper for everyone?

Hogster1
07-14-2011, 12:27 PM
I have a shad box we use when hybrid fishing or catfishing. I caught a shad last friday in the bait ball that was under the boat last friday night ( had the old green light out ) put him on the hook and sent him down. It didnt even make it to 10ft when i had one on thats what got me wondering about it. I have always just used minnows, Is keeping the shad alive the big stopper for everyone?

I would say yes otherwise they would be the perfect bait.Natural food source that crappie love.Just to hard to keep alive

beagle man
07-14-2011, 12:42 PM
we use to all the time,,, need a round barrell, or big live well,,,, eaven dead if kept real cold they make good crappie bait,, a crappie in my opinion will eat a dead shad as fast as they would eat a live one,,, Ie, we fish below the gar feeding or the white bass feeding and catch crappie eating the dead shad, go for it

olesilverside
07-14-2011, 01:08 PM
I don't try to keep them alive, but in the summer months and the new hatch is out of shad, I use the 1 1/2" tube jigs in white/silver flake tail, or blue/white with flake, or black/white with flake and it looks like the shad and works quite well for me, and I can keep them jigs alive easier.....

Bigbill
07-14-2011, 01:29 PM
Thanks for the input guy's, i will let you know how bug and i do this weekend with them. Dead, alive or half dead we are going to give it a try.

crappiedave55
07-14-2011, 01:51 PM
been known to snatch one off the top of the water every now and then,makes real good bait.seen times they would eat a shad and would'nt touch a minnow

gabowman
07-14-2011, 01:51 PM
I've caught a few in the lights while nightstalking before. They caught fish but didnt seem to do any better than the minners. Like already said, hard to keep alive even on the hook.

Danny W
07-14-2011, 02:18 PM
We use a half barrel (plastic) and a battery powered aerator and keep them alive. I think they work a little better than minnows because they flake out from thier scales and leave a better scent trail and emmit alot flakes much like a good silver crappie nibbler would. I bet you will have some luck with those little shad.

arkyfisherman
07-14-2011, 04:54 PM
Bigbill,there are some down this way that use a 1/2 barrell with ice in the water and one of them battery powered areators.Works pretty and i know for a fact it works on atkins lake on south of me.Like beagle said some of us used to use them a long time ago.

newt
07-14-2011, 06:43 PM
My 2 bits ,best question ive saw on this site for a while. Glad you had the, oh well you know to do it. I am very much learning from this one. GOOD QUESTION

nvrgvup444
07-14-2011, 06:55 PM
I have heard about and seen Brushman (Rodney) put one on the jig and catch good crappie, especially when everything else slowed down. But then again, he can just flat out catch fish.

south point
07-15-2011, 05:00 PM
I would think shad are the primary food source this time of year, so it stands to reason that would probably be the BEST bait available. I don,t use too much live bait for crappies in the summer, but I keep a throw net in the boat in case the crappies won't take a crankbait or jig. (but on those kind of days, I usually can't find any small shad)
keeping them alive, as said, is much easier said than done. and I don't go to this trouble for crappie fishin, but for cats or strippers, I use a 55 gallon drum, cut in half, with a 750 gph areator recirculating the water. I cool the water with frozen water bottles, rather than just using ice. when the ice melts, the chlorine in it contaminates rest of the water and quickly kills the shad. I also use a couple of heaping handfuls of canning salt, this helps keep their slime coat nice and thick and really keeps the shad lively. you could also use "shad saver", but it is mostly jut salt, with blue die added. and you have to change the water a lot because the dang things crap so much. I change my tank water every hour or so at first until the shad quit fouling up the water so bad. then I still change the water every few hours.
and if ya do all that you MIGHT be able to keep em alive for a few days if its not hot outside. over 90 degrees out and your shad won't make it 2 days. or maybe this is all just bad advice and I just suck at keeping shad alive! Lmao!
fish on!

Jigging Tournaments
07-15-2011, 07:24 PM
It's hard to keep them alive for some reason?

Bigby
07-17-2011, 10:12 PM
My son and I used the small shad last year for catching crappie and they worked great, it's what they are eating anyway. :)

cook
07-18-2011, 06:12 AM
Haven't been on for a few days,so it seems you got your answer.

I'll chime in that I've been doing this for a few years now...I have a boat but do a lot of bank fishing also.I don't even bother trying to keep them alive,they go straight from the net onto ice.
Went out last monday and just drifted those 3 inch shad along some rip-rap..just enough breeze to keep it moving slow,about 3 foot under a float in 5-8 fow.No weight and I use a sturdier hook than those bronze crappie hooks because ya never know what you will get.
I caught flats and channels,some big drum,crappie and white bass..shad is kinda like a nightcrawler,about anything will eat it,even carp.