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BigMack
11-23-2010, 10:52 PM
One thing I have learned from Mr. Ernest Paty is that I like to share knowledge and promote crappie fishing.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o163/BigMack1618/2010-09-18TsccMc009-s.jpg
or as I see him:
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o163/BigMack1618/Paty-Yoda.jpg

Any of you who have fished with me know that I'm a system kinda guy.
Order is better than chaos any day.
You would think 7 hours in a tourney is plenty time.
Even a regular day on the lake to me is a countdown.
I am picky about where to keep the net, how to net a fish and other things in the boat.
I have come up with a system for rigging that is very versatile.

Here is the basis of the system.
I tried all other ways to avoid using it but, as I’ve learned, sometimes you gotta do what works.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o163/BigMack1618/2010-11-23McSystem001-s.jpg
Next is the clasp on braid. I prefer 15 or 20#.
I’ve been using different brands and colors for 3 years now.
Yesterday I was using a dark green(Stren) and a bright orange(Suffix).
As the sun was setting behind the trees I couldn’t see the green anymore,
the orange stood out from my rod tip to the water.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o163/BigMack1618/2010-11-23McSystem002-s.jpg
I also use braid for the 36” drop shot.
I also have some drops rigged for 18” when they are closer to the bottom.
I have found 4” leaders to be the best length. 10# mono.
Size 3 split rings, #2 Matzuo Sickle hooks(From ED @ ProAngler) and 3/8 to 1/2 oz low profile slip sinkers on 8ft ProAngler Rods.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o163/BigMack1618/2010-11-23McSystem003-s.jpg
When I am not sure what depth they are I use 2 hooks 18” apart.
This system allows me to add that on with a clasp & ring between the 3 ways.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o163/BigMack1618/2010-11-23McSystem004-s.jpg
The “Tackle Buddy” is a great way to store hooks & sinkers.
You can get these at BPS or Finny Tribe.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o163/BigMack1618/2010-11-23McSystem005.jpg
If anyone is crazy enough to try this let me know how you did.
Give it at least 6 trips before throwing it all in the lake and realizing I'm just a nut.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o163/BigMack1618/2010-10-09LL001-s.jpg

bugman
11-24-2010, 06:51 AM
WOW.......way too complicated and entirely too many knots for me to fool with......i'm sure it works for you but ease of use works for me.

Skypilot
11-24-2010, 07:37 AM
Good info, 'mack....always lookin' for a little edge...Could see how this makes a good spider riggin' set up too...thanks!

chaunc
11-24-2010, 07:56 AM
Glad it works for you but thats way too much hardware for me. My brushpiles would keep me twice as busy as they do now. And with the braided line, i'd either move my brush or tear it up. We use similar rigs up here but thats only when we're fishing Lake Erie for perch in 50ft water.

BigMack
11-24-2010, 10:15 AM
No brush torn up with this rig.
the wire hook bends or the mono leader breaks before any damage can be done.
Yeah, lots of knots and pre lake work, but all the snaps make it fast to change out and be back in the game pronto, Tonto.
If you've ever run 8 rods with C & C rigs you know how often you have to retie the whole pole leaving your partner to watch the other 7 & run the boat.
Lots of our teams slow troll especially this time of year. We call it Vacumming up the fish.
Just thought I would see what others folks in different states thought of this.
Thanks for your responses.

striperking
11-24-2010, 10:31 AM
I use this same set up in the winter when there holding close to the bottom,I thought about trying this when everybody started dropshotting for bass and it worked so why not try it for crappie.And it works very well for me.

olduckhunter
11-24-2010, 11:16 AM
big, you went to a lot of trouble to try to teach people something new. if they haven't tried it they shouldn't knock it. thanks for the pictures and information.

bugman
11-24-2010, 01:50 PM
big, you went to a lot of trouble to try to teach people something new. if they haven't tried it they shouldn't knock it. thanks for the pictures and information.

Didn't knock a thing quite the contrary,i think it's an impressive rig but just a little complex for my uses......just gave my opinion.

barus243
11-24-2010, 02:58 PM
Looks like a good rig. I've used something similar for catfishing but never thought about using the quick disconnects that is a great idea. Thanks for sharing.

Ferdi
11-25-2010, 08:56 AM
Thanks for the info Big Mack, good looking rig. Helps out with the old bones moving slower and the eyes in the sun light trying to hit the holes less. Now I have something to do with all those 3 way swivels from green carp fishing. Ferdi aka Fred

stumpy041486
11-25-2010, 09:34 PM
I was just thinking of trying something really similar to this, but without the rings and clips. The clips and rings are a great idea though. Have you tried doing this with jigs instead of just bare hooks? What size swivel and clips do you use. I am thinking about premaking alot of these rigs for the next time I go fishing.

shipahoy41
11-26-2010, 09:14 AM
Thank you for showing us all how you do things. Personally, I am old fashioned and believe less hardware is always better. I will not knock another person's methods especially if they are working for him or her. Nice job. Tell Mr. Paty hello when you see him. I always learn something when watching his videos.

LBM
11-26-2010, 10:25 AM
Thanks for the pictures. I had been setting up some kentucky-rigs with the three ways and heavier snap swivels to make re-rigging easier after break offs. What I'm taking away from your post is your use of the split rings and clips you use.

As for me when I'm dropping baits into the heaviest snaggyiest stuff I think extra hardware clanging around in there is a plus. In fact I had thought about what I might add to the rigging just to make more noise down there and wake up and agitate those crappie that are hanging around down there.

Since your posting I'll now be using the clips and split rings in my setups plus be chaining together a series of split rings for a short clanging chain somewhere within my rigs.

Again thanks for the posting and sharing of your methods - the very thing that make this a great site.

BigMack
11-26-2010, 01:23 PM
I agree with you Shipahoy, and I will say Hi to Ernest for ya.

It took 2 years of gettin' whooped by the big boys to make me realize
that, during a tourney, you gotta do some things that you don't like.
I've been very observant of others and saw myself in them when they
restricted themselves by saying stuff like "I only fish single line jigs on trees".
I also fought using the 3 ways and all the hardware.
I'm not saying this is a system someone should use every time you go out.
Just that this is my system I came up with that will usually put 4x as many fish
in the boat than the other methods.

LBM
You also bring us another good point.
They do come to sound & movement.
I bounce that weight on crossbeams, brush and just on the mud.
Folks think I'm kidding when I say I make them bite.
You can make them mad by making noise & when you feel them rubbing on
your lure, jiggle it just enough to tick them off to bite it.
In cold weather like this they do just come up to it and hold it in their mouth.
No movement, not hungry, but just like me and buttermilk pies they just can't resist
putting it in their mouth.

Stumpy
I just went to BPS and restocked for next year.
#4 three ways
#2 Split Rings
#2 Fastlock Snaps
and either 1/4, 3/8 or 1/2 oz sinkers depending on the wind.
90% of the time 3ft off the bottom.
in deep cold they will be on the bottom so I go to 18".
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o163/BigMack1618/2010-11-26McSystem001.jpg

Ps
I use baitcasters 1/2 full of cheap mono and tie on 50ft of braid on top.
No use wasting money.

Hey, I can't sit here and claim I just know all this stuff.
I have learned more in 3 years with my club than you can imagine.
It's not just more Texas braggin' here.
We have a club that has something going for it.
I pestered them to start filming our meetings and they listened after the 1st year.
You can see short versions on YouTube but if you join, you can see them all on the clubs website. Good deal for $25.
We have over 300 members all over the states now.
Even CrappieMasters is coming down to give us a run this summer at Fork.
Crappie Anglers of Texas.

Thanks to all for your feedback.
Like Red-Greens says "We're all in this together".

FalconSmitty
12-02-2010, 11:46 PM
bigmack> thank you for sharing. I have been around this site for years and have seen this kind of detailed info dwindle. It is great to see this and hope you will continue to help those that are learning here.

Olgrey
12-03-2010, 12:41 AM
Thanks Bigmack for the information. I try to be open to trying new ways of doing things but am starting to get old and am more resistant to change.

grundan
12-03-2010, 09:46 AM
thanks for sharing big mack. gonna try that out on guntersville lake this weekend. is this setup only used in trolling/spider rigging ?
does the crappie "catch" himself or are you watching all those poles for strikes? I'm thinking of setting up 1 pole like this while I am casting
in some deeper water

Skypilot
12-03-2010, 11:04 AM
I agree with you Shipahoy, and I will say Hi to Ernest for ya.

It took 2 years of gettin' whooped by the big boys to make me realize
that, during a tourney, you gotta do some things that you don't like.
I've been very observant of others and saw myself in them when they
restricted themselves by saying stuff like "I only fish single line jigs on trees".
I also fought using the 3 ways and all the hardware.
I'm not saying this is a system someone should use every time you go out.
Just that this is my system I came up with that will usually put 4x as many fish
in the boat than the other methods.

LBM
You also bring us another good point.
They do come to sound & movement.
I bounce that weight on crossbeams, brush and just on the mud.
Folks think I'm kidding when I say I make them bite.
You can make them mad by making noise & when you feel them rubbing on
your lure, jiggle it just enough to tick them off to bite it.
In cold weather like this they do just come up to it and hold it in their mouth.
No movement, not hungry, but just like me and buttermilk pies they just can't resist
putting it in their mouth.

Stumpy
I just went to BPS and restocked for next year.
#4 three ways
#2 Split Rings
#2 Fastlock Snaps
and either 1/4, 3/8 or 1/2 oz sinkers depending on the wind.
90% of the time 3ft off the bottom.
in deep cold they will be on the bottom so I go to 18".
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o163/BigMack1618/2010-11-26McSystem001.jpg

Ps
I use baitcasters 1/2 full of cheap mono and tie on 50ft of braid on top.
No use wasting money.

Hey, I can't sit here and claim I just know all this stuff.
I have learned more in 3 years with my club than you can imagine.
It's not just more Texas braggin' here.
We have a club that has something going for it.
I pestered them to start filming our meetings and they listened after the 1st year.
You can see short versions on YouTube but if you join, you can see them all on the clubs website. Good deal for $25.
We have over 300 members all over the states now.
Even CrappieMasters is coming down to give us a run this summer at Fork.
Crappie Anglers of Texas.

Thanks to all for your feedback.
Like Red-Greens says "We're all in this together".

AHHHH.....so this is the "BigMack" of CAT fame! I met a guy out on RR this summer in a red Triton this that said he fished CAT...Invited me to a meeting....Wish I lived closer...
Again, thanks for sharing what you do....