I have had a lot of luck over 25' to 35' kind of pulling. I am finding the fish on points where a creek and the main channel meet about 12' to 15' down. I am using an 3/4 egg sinker with a swivel and about 30" in. leader going about 1.6 to 1.8 mph this way I have only about 20' of line out to get about 12' deep. I am fishing about where the big Niangua and little Niangua meet up. I have only been doing this for about six or seven weeks and it has really been working for me. I have done well I think, but I am happy with a few fish in the boat. There were two times when I really got in to them and caught my limit.