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Pat
06-28-2010, 05:43 AM
If these don`t catch them, I`m not tying anymore !

http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk459/Tillers_album/Beady%20Eyed%20Bugs%206%202010/Beadyeyedbug007.jpg

Pat
07-03-2010, 04:23 PM
Finally got out to fish some, tried out my "new" bugs..................................
Bead eyes not heavy enough to sink them soooooooooooo added a split shot....
success ! my first fish on my fly rod and my first fish on one of my bugs..... don`t get any better !

http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk459/Tillers_album/Fishin%202010/Chowang7210002.jpg

Fatman
07-03-2010, 05:22 PM
Congrats!!!!!!!!! Now ya gotta take that bug and put it away!!!! It will alwys bring back the memory of the first on your flyrod.

If the beadheads don't let it sink fast enough get some lead wire and try different amounts until it sinks the way you want it to.

Again congrats

Fatman

Turtlebait
07-03-2010, 09:19 PM
SSsHeeeee told you they may outlaw dat sucker,seen all the colors above today
Save the picture and feed that bug to more fish,grin.
Somedays like today I too had to put a split shot on to sink a bream killer,yours bugs are ok like they are without adding wt.Like today most all my hits were when the bream killer tried to rise back to the surface.Let it sink how ever deep you want and with a few short pulls inbetween stop and starts will drive them crazy on lockjaw days.
I see your split shot on your line,I had to bring mind down to within 6in. to the fly and give it a hop hop action to even trigger a hit.Today reminded me of the DOGDAYS thats coming and trying to guess how far up the line and what size split shot to pinch on.They were 10 different boats on the lake today and all gone by 10:30,fish were not active.Put my plastices away and tied on the bream killer,throwed back 100 or more the same size in your picture.Throwed 10 bulls and 2 specks in the cooler,floating fly with split shot is a killer even in the dog days.I hardly ever go nomore then 24ins. up the line with a split shot,I start at 12ins. and work up or down from there.

Pat
07-04-2010, 05:24 AM
Fatman & Turtlebait, thanks for the pointers / info / feed back ........... had a real slow day even with worms under a bobber , water temp 86-88 fished some deeper water but even that was slow / no show...........
If we don`t get some rain soon, I`m afraid the saltwater will move into our rivers again from the sounds .......kills the lily pads and chases the fish to ????????????? I guess the small feeder creeks, ditches in the swamp

Turtlebait
07-04-2010, 11:35 PM
I think by adjusting the split shot down to maybe even 2in. or less would have done better than the worm.Ever watch a butterfly fly,somedays its a slow up and down with long loops,somedays the up and down is a ever fast drop down and up fast with short loops,different size split shot can do the same with your flies..Saturaday I watched dragon flies try to light on the end of gars noses,Seen it tried several times that day.The gars would smack at them but never did I see a lucky gar nor the dragon flies give a second try.It was interesting to think the gar may have enough smarts about him to fool the dragon fly into landing on his nose to snack on.Sometimes spooky fish will run from a floating fly when it hits the water.But will nail it as it falls though the water depths,your job is to figure out how slow or fast of a drop and with short or long up and downs.There is nothing wrong with wt.ed flies but you can not get the same action with them as you can with a floating fly and split shot.

Turtlebait
07-06-2010, 04:07 PM
To me fish aren't active if they do not hit any of the plastic,curly tails,sliders and tubes.Nor do I think their active if not hitting,spinners,cranks or any thing else you throw atem.Today was one of those days after about 4 hours playing around with the plastic and spinners with only two fish in the cooler.I had been watching how the dragon flies were acting sorta dive head first at the object but back off at the ever last second as no touch landing.Seen a few bugs and wasp land in the water,something was here to check it out but only would move it to one side and not eat it.Tied a bream killer on with split shot and for awhile I was taken bream off left and right.The bream killer slowed down on its catching as the sun got higher and hotter.I gotten something in the mail a few days ago and this was what I was waiting for,a slow bit even with a bream killer.I tied another lure on with split shot about 12in. up the line,dang first cast bream on and the next and next for awhile I thought I was bill dance.Pulled under a shade tree to cool off drank a soda and tie a different color on and ajust the split shot down a few inches.I findly got tired catching and throwing bream back and kept 10 for super tonite.I do not keep bream of this size unless like today no bulls to be found.

Pat
07-06-2010, 07:37 PM
Great pic`s , thanks for posting !

Flyrod Man
07-07-2010, 06:20 PM
I fish bd/hds in 15-20 ft of wtr (wfl) without split shot. Be patient, many times the fish will take, while it sinks. Panfish suspend in deeper wtr, so I always keep count on the drop, this tells me on the hookup where they are. Only time I use shot is for "chuck & duck" during spring steelhead runs when the water is fast from runnoff.

fish_4_all
07-07-2010, 06:43 PM
I might have to tyie some of theose for around here with some barbell eyes for weight. My local crappie/gill pond hates me but I see fish rolling all the time so maybe somethng like that will trigger a strike on a super slow fall.

Turtlebait
07-07-2010, 08:16 PM
I agree on being patient with a sinking fly but sometimes fish will fallow the fly down all the way to the bottom and swim off without even taken a second look.They know its sinking to the bottom even with short or long hops its still sinking to the bottom.Its the reason for the split shot with a floating fly,its sinks but will also rise back up with short or long hops.In other words its sinking just like a wt.'ed fly but the rise of the floating fly will get reaction hits on inactive fish.
I think the reason the bream killer slowed down on catching was b/c it wasn't rising fast enough.The foam on the other flies gave it a faster rise that tiggered the inactive fish into hitting the bait before it got away.You can do the same thing with a popping bug,both the floating fly and popping bug with split shot can be a life saver in the dog days of summer.

fish_4_all
07-07-2010, 09:43 PM
I have to agree that a twitch on the way down is going to trigger a lot more bites than a simple fall. Trout rarely ever hit my flies or jigs sitting still but twitch it on a retrieve and they go nuts for them. Crappie and gills should be effected even more since they are more aggresive.

FlyRobLures
01-11-2011, 03:53 PM
don't quit tying ! They will work just got to find the right conditions I made some like what you have ! 52594

Pat
01-11-2011, 06:43 PM
don't quit tying ! They will work just got to find the right conditions I made some like what you have ! 52594

Great look`n bug, that ought to catch them !
Pat

FlyRobLures
01-11-2011, 08:27 PM
I've had a lot of good luck on that one ! I have a lot more of diffrent ones if you want to check them out go to Home - FlyRob Lures Bait & Tackle (http://www.flyroblures.webs.com)/

07_hemi_thunderroad
01-12-2011, 06:08 PM
WOW Pat those fly looks great! What are the materials and steps you used to tie them?

Pat
01-13-2011, 02:57 PM
WOW Pat those fly looks great! What are the materials and steps you used to tie them?

A chain bead eye & thread base on the hook, then the tail (feathers, buck tail etc) then the "walmart" foam tied at the hook bend, folded over to the eye end , legs (bungee cord "innards) tied in , then foam folded back toward the hook bend , finished off with tie at the head........................
Try some , they are not difficult at all
Pat in NE NC......... Gates Co, where in NC are you?