I am by no means the norm on this subject but I use my 10' Ozarks for pitching to the bank in spring time. I just take of the small bait cast reels and put on a Quantum Optix reel and I am in bussiness. Before I found the Ozark rods I always used the Quantum "Todd Huckabee" series 9' rod for this. Most guys here on Truman will use 7' and 8' Ozark and Outlaw rods. They both can be bought in the Truman area at a number of bait shops and tackle stores. I will stick with the 10'.