Got into the technical stuff and had to quit. That first stuff was good though! I started ultra lite in Germany in the service probably no other reason than it was different. Here in Oregon I've never caught many very big trout and it's a requirement here to fish for trout or be looked down on! But I really liked my UL by then and when I started crappie fishing a couple years ago the value of UL became obvious to me. I generally prefer baitcasting but try to cast a 1/64th oz jig on a bait casting outfit, just doesn't work. Here in Oregon also the biggest crappie I've ever seen was 13". Mostly so far where I fish were 8" fish. Really can't see using a crane to catch a small fish. The 10" and up fish I have caught were a lot of fun to catch, the 8" fish reminded my of my childhood and 3" bluegills! The larger one's actually fought pretty well and were a hoot, they all eat good. My favorite rod and reel for crappie is a very small UL Ocuma reel with 2# line on a 5' Ocuma rod with a slip bobber and 1/64 oz jig. My bobber's are about 1" cork balls. Tried to cast them with one of my lever winds, what a joke! Catching them with my UL is a hoot! I have three other small spinning rods also but think they are a step up from true UL. Still a lot of fun but just not as much as UL. Seems like so many years after I started fishing UL I have found the fish UL was meant for!