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    Does anyone use these for ultralight fishing? Ive been researching these reels and rods. Wondering if they would work with a float/fly rig. 1/32 jig with 1.5 float. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks

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    I know of two JDM baitcasters designed for "Area" trout fishing (there may be others). One is a Daiwa, new this year, which I have ordered but have not yet received, and the other is a Rodio-craft, which I decided not to order because the blank is bright yellow (I may order it anyway, though). The Daiwa is a 6' two piece rod designed for 2 - 5 lb line and 1.5 - 5 gram lures roughly (1/20 - 3/16 oz). Rodio-craft does not list recommended line and lure weights but I suspect they would be about the same as the Daiwa rod. I have not heard anyone in the US even mention Rodio-craft rods, but they have a range of spinning rods designed for Area trout fishing that range up to roughly $750 - so they're not junk. The Rodio-craft baitcaster is one of their less expensive rods (no cork and no wood) and is 5'2", so I would probably use for UL stream fishing instead.

    Your jig and float would be right at the lower end of the recommended range (and also right at the lower end of what people can reasonably cast with a BFS reel). I have not used a float/fly rig, so I don't know if that adds any difficulty.

    If you are already an expert with a baitcaster, you shouldn't have a problem. If you've always used only a spinning rod, be prepared for some frustration, although you may eventually learn to love it.
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    Check out "raWr Fishing" on YouTube. He's super into BFS and has a lot of good videos on rods and reels. He's also a member here so hopefully he'll chime in.

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    I seen the baitcasters on the finesse fishing site and was concerning about putting a rig together but with not knowing if it will work kinda makes me a little nervous. I hate to spend the money and be disappointed. I’m a bass fisherman from the pass so baitcaster reels are no problem.
    Chris thanks for the update and I will be looking for the rod. In

    Aruther I will check out the videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayou Boy View Post
    I seen the baitcasters on the finesse fishing site and was concerning about putting a rig together but with not knowing if it will work kinda makes me a little nervous. I hate to spend the money and be disappointed. I’m a bass fisherman from the pass so baitcaster reels are no problem.
    Chris thanks for the update and I will be looking for the rod. In

    Aruther I will check out the videos.
    If you havent seen this guy and if you want to see what a Master can do with BFS gear check this guy out.

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    I'm no pro, but to me there is a huge difference between casting a 1/16 oz jighead with plastic (raWr Fishing) and a 1/32 oz hair jig (OP)! For me, it is the difference between A) piece of cake and b) no distance and no accuracy. However, I was using a stream rod. That is why in my first reply I mentioned Area rods, which are designed for lighter lures and lighter lines.


    The heavy sinking minnows that Angler Saito casts is a whole 'nother world (the difference between a 1 gram jig and a 1/8 oz jig).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Stewart View Post
    I'm no pro, but to me there is a huge difference between casting a 1/16 oz jighead with plastic (raWr Fishing) and a 1/32 oz hair jig (OP)! For me, it is the difference between A) piece of cake and b) no distance and no accuracy. However, I was using a stream rod. That is why in my first reply I mentioned Area rods, which are designed for lighter lures and lighter lines.


    The heavy sinking minnows that Angler Saito casts is a whole 'nother world (the difference between a 1 gram jig and a 1/8 oz jig).

    Correct me if I am wrong but I am of the mind that trying to use BFS with 1/32 and 1/16 is just not practical....for distance or accuracy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphahawk View Post
    If you haven’t seen this guy and if you want to see what a Master can do with BFS gear check this guy out.

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    that looks like about a 1 maybe 1.5" plug. have no idea what it would weight but yeah that guy is a baitcasting ninja. i could've done without the techno music lol.

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    Casting 1/16 oz on any decent BFS rig is pretty easy for both accuracy and distance. Going below that gets more difficult but can be done. I modified a $39 Abu Garcia Black Max for BFS and can cast 1/32 stuff no problem. Total cost of the conversion can be done for less than $40. I've seen guys casting 1/64 oz on some higher end BFS set ups.

    I've also done some mods on an old Abu 2500C (reel used in the Angler Saito video) and have been able to throw as light as 1/8 lures. I have one more mods to make which should increase distance and accuracy. Once again, I did these mods as a learning experience and to test the limits of the reel. In the process, I've become better at at using a baitcaster. Throwing the light stuff really makes you concentrate on technique.

    In my experience, as a practical matter, unless you need to make super accurate casts (and have the ability to do so), using a BFS set up to throw these tiny lures yields little or no advantage over a spinning set up. Some guys are pretty deadly accurate with a spinning set up. I did my conversion mostly for fun and to see what could be accomplished on the cheap. YMMV.

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    I do the majority of my fishing with bait casting rod's and reels. Closest I have come to cast very light jigs is 1/4 oz. Most my setup's will do that but get down below than and bet's are off. I have an ABU 2500, 1/4oz best I can do. Also have a Daiwi RG on a Celilo Kokannee pro rod rated for 2-8# line but 1/4oz is about the best I can do with it also. Maybe it's a mind thing? When I fish for crappie all I ever use is spinning rods and reels. Ultra light Ocuma is my favorite set up. I think it might be I need small jigs here. Biggest crappie I've caught out here was 13" and normally they only go about 8". I guess small is better for small. Now if we had theos bigger fish I see on the internet, I'd go bigger. Second crappie I ever caught I don't recall the size but I was bass fishing using a 1/4oz plastic jig. Seem's to me heavier jig's require bigger fish.

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