Thread: Homeless Fish Fry?

I’m a little slow coming up to speed, but it seems everything I read was specific to tournament bass fishing. Do crappie and catfish folks treat fish in the live wells also? If not, is the speed bump still a speed bump? I guess when I had this idea in the beginning, my thought was crappie and bluegill because that’s what I eat. Another member on here reached out to me privately about providing catfish. Tournament fish and chemicals never entered my mind. So, even if we rule out bass, I guess I still need to check the regulations on the other non-tournament fish. I spoke with the gentleman that runs the local Catholic fish fries and they purchase all of their fish so they don’t have to worry about these type of regulations. Thanks for the info and I’ll keep researching...


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Originally Posted by bob331

After more research last week and a phone call or 2 there may be more than a little “Speed Bump” to consider. Looks like there is a BIG blinking “Caution Sign” and then possibly a BIGGER red flashing “Stop Lights” attached to providing FREE local gamefish for feeding the homeless.

So what do you think?

I chatted with a bass tournament director about feeding the homeless with local caught freshwater gamefish: 1^st – tournament bass fishermen generally DO NOT EAT BASS and scorn others that do eat bass. 2^nd -about giving fish to charity, the hungry homeless folk.

For what this is worth if it’s worth anything, maybe a “speed bump” to consider regarding giving wild game fish to charity and EPA regulations regarding dumping these unknown livewell chemical supplements back into public waters: food safety, FDA animal (fish) drug regulations for fish that is commonly consumed by humans and e the potential liability of using unknown chemical fish dips on fish that may be eaten by humans post dipping and so on. Dipping being soaking in small boat livewells using these unknown chemical supplements containing water coloring dyes, antibiotics and antifungal drugs, tranquilizing drugs, dechlorinating chemicals like Amquel and sodium thiosulfate and other FDA controlled chemicals and drugs used on food fish that may be consumed by humans (cultured fish and wild fish).

B.A.S.S. Keeping bass Alive , Livewell management Recommendations https://www.bassmaster.com/sites/default/files/bassmaster2011/imce/KBA_LivewellManage.pdf
“Most commercial livewell additives contain salts, but somealsocontain ingredients that are not approved by the U.S. Food and DrugAdministration for use on fish that may be treated, released, then caught againat a later date and pos*sibly eaten by humans. For this reason, State andFederal fisheries agencies cannot recommend the use of these products.”

Texas Parks and Wildlife Department, Catch andRelease Guidelines Livewell Management https://tpwd.texas.gov/fishboat/fish/recreational/catchrelease/livewell.phtml“Never use commercial water additives unless they are in agreement with FDA and EPA regulations.”

Amquelhttps://pentairaes.com/kordon-amquelr-plus.html Uses no sodium thiosulfate, contains no formaldehyde and is nontoxic to all fish and invertebrates[BUT] (not FDA-approved for use with food fish).

This TD says there are some Federal regulations he is aware of that apply specifically to approved FDA drugs, dyes and chemical fish dips used on food fish. There are also EPA regulations relating to this matter too. Other drugs and dips use on tropical aquaria species or bait fish are prohibited for use on food fish. Hatcheries and fish farmers are authorized touse these vet drugs and chemical dips, but after food fish are exposed to these chemicals, food fish have a specific quarantine time allowing for these drugs/chemicals to leave the fish’s body before they are killed, processed and eaten by humans, 30 days more or less.

Many tournament fishing contestants,tournament directors and fish saver livewell supplement manufactures encourage the use of many unknown livewell chemicals that are not FDA certified nor approved for use on tournament game fish that are treated with these drugs and dips during tournaments, then released alive, caught the next day, killed and then consumed by humans that have no idea these fish ere soaked 7-8 hours in these chemicals the previous day at a fishing tournament.

Commercial fish saver supplements manufactures (Sure Life Products Please Release Me, Bass Medics Rejuvenade, Marine Metal U-2 formula, Fishlife Livewell Treatment and others) specifically targeting the tournament C&R fishing business provide consumers with no chemical components identified in the packaging, on the fixed label or even when you request a MSDS. Aquaculture companies that sell fish drugs and chemical dips to consumers do specify the chemical contents on labels and MSDS. They also specifies USE ON TROPICAL FISH ONLY and FOR USE WITH LIVE BAIT FISH ONLY. These companies often have the buyer sign and date a legal form upon sale of these fish care supplements that states the buyer will not use these drugs of chemical dips on food fish for human consumption.

The tournament fish saver chemicalmanufactures routinely discounting FDA food fish regulations for approved drugsand chemical dip application on food fish (tournament game fish).

Useless information.

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