Thread: Raccoon report

Thanks for the report.

Both Harden and Cagles Mill just turned over and it caused a big oxygen sag. This turns the fish off the bite. Dissolved oxygen levels at Harden were down in the 3's this week after the turnover Louisville District > Missions > Civil Works > Water Information > Updated Lake Temperatures and Dissolved Oxygen Lev > CM Harden Profile.

The bite should pick back up now that the lake has turned and oxygen levels are rebounding but this explains the slow fishing recently.

If you doubt the quality of the fish out there just look out for the results from the slabmasters tournaments once they are posted. Results will be posted here Tournament Results. They caught a lot of nice fish at Harden in the Sept. 11th tournament there. 70% of what was weighed in were 10"+

Even tho I haven’t been on them,,water temp I would think not cold enough for a turn over yet.

There is no debate needed. The link i posted has the data from the corps sensors at the dam. Lake has turned over. Thermocline is gone. Oxygen is low throughout because of the turnover. All that is required is some consistent nightly air temps much cooler than surface water to make it sink and destabilize the thermocline.

No debate needed? Who makes the rules? I will debate you.
1. The links on Slabmasters aren’t working when I click on the current tourney results.
2. Have you been on both lakes recently as past few days and seen them or fished them for yourself?
3. Water temp for a turn over begins at 50 degrees and for deep lakes some don’t turn over till ideal surface temp is 39 degrees.
4. Yesterdays and todays air temp still in the 80’s. So it’s not cold enough yet for water to cool enough and sink and mix, thus creating a turnover.
5. Most of the time,,those gauges your reading are not accurate and kept in working order.

And,,if the gauges are working…they are only located in one place on the lakes and don’t cover entire lake acreage.

Originally Posted by cevans

No debate needed? Who makes the rules? I will debate you.
1. The links on Slabmasters aren’t working when I click on the current tourney results.
2. Have you been on both lakes recently as past few days and seen them or fished them for yourself?
3. Water temp for a turn over begins at 50 degrees and for deep lakes some don’t turn over till ideal surface temp is 39 degrees.
4. Yesterdays and todays air temp still in the 80’s. So it’s not cold enough yet for water to cool enough and sink and mix, thus creating a turnover.
5. Most of the time,,those gauges your reading are not accurate and kept in working order.

1 - I didn't say they were posted yet. I was indicating where they will be posted in the future. So members can see them when they go up.
2- Yes I have been on Cagle's Mill recently and fished it. The fishing has been slow for the last few weeks.
3- You are not correct. There is no magic temperature where the thermocline will break down. It's a matter of differences in temperature. Water density changes continuously with temperature. Cooler water sinks when its on top of warmer water. The surface waters have been cooling since the nighttime temps have been dropping for the last several weeks. When it sinks hard enough to penetrate the thermocline it will begin to break down.
4- The temperatures have been as low as the high 40's at night in the past several weeks.
5- I'm not going to debate someone that thinks their opinion is better than actual measurements. The data at the dam that I posted isn't actually stationary sensors. It is a portable meter profile taken weekly by a staff member. Also a faulty meter wouldn't magically show a strong thermocline present for the past several weeks and then magically show a turnover. Also why would all these lakes magically have faulty sensors showing a turnover at the same time? Much more likely they are actually turning over unless you want to argue that Cagle's and Harden's meters just magically failed simultaneously.

I have not had any nights in the 40’s yet and live 30 miles as the crow flys from the Cat. Everybody fishing the Coon and Cat has found water temps in low 70’s. Check the previous postings. What is the water temp you been finding while fishing? The discussion was about everybody catching decient numbers of fish,,just not sizable keepers. I was at Glendale and West Boggs this weeek and they haven’t even begun to turn over even tho they are scum filled from warm temps. My 2–4 acre lakes haven’t turned over either.