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Old 02-18-2009, 04:00 PM
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Pan,You and I are on the same page.We must listen to the same news.
I'm on that page, too--and I've been close to the developing problem for a long time as a career banker and banking regulator.

If you want to put your finger on the first rotten apple in the barrel, it is the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 (CRA). Here is a detailed discussion of the political steps that caused this government-wielded knife to end up in the backs of lenders, commercial bankers, mortgage bankers, investors, Wall Street investment bankers, and every other private sector participant in the housing finance industry.

CRA allowed activist organizations (ACORN being the best example) to extort lending commitments from FDIC-insured banks. These commitments called for pouring money into low & moderate income neighborhoods--regardless of credit demand or borrower qualifications. In addition to ACORN and the like, the banking regulators (charged with "enforcing" the CRA) pushed banks to make loans in marginal areas and to maintain "demographic balance" in their lending records--again, with little concern for creditworthiness.

When it became harder and harder for banks to stomach portfolios of these questionable loans, liberal Congressional Democrats forced Fannie & Freddie to throw the doors wide open and buy just about anything a lender could shove in a loan folder. Mortgage bankers (unaffected by CRA because they were not FDIC-insured) saw a golden opportunity to cash in, and also started pushing loans at marginal borrowers--all of which were sold to Fannie & Freddie.

When they ran out of marginally qualified borrowers, these same lenders decided to reduce/eliminate down payments, reduce payments to less than the interest accruing each month (aka - negative amortization), and defer payment adjustments for years--even decades--into the future. All of these steps allowed unqualified borrowers to "realize the great American dream of home ownership." After all, the lenders reasoned, Fannie or Freddie would be holding the loans when it became obvious that borrowers were in way over their heads. They rationalized these deadly loans and shrugged off borrower concerns by telling borrowers their properties would continue appreciating forever and when the payment adjustments came due, the loans could be refinanced--possibly with cash back!

Free markets clense themselves, just like a free-flowing stream. When government gets in the way of this process, it's never in our long-term interest.
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:24 PM
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Thanks Corker, that is the way I understood all this came about but I couldn't explain it in terms like that.
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:13 PM
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The banks
Not the homeowner.
Just think for a second.
If the govt. steped in and bought the bad loans.
1st offered the house back to the purchaser (owner occupied homes only)
0% loan 180 payments (15yr)
IF the deal is accepted the mortage is cut in half!!
The govt stands to get back 100% of its money.
NON assumable.
no points,
balance due on sale.
Hmmmmmmmmmm sounds like Jimmy Carters Habatat for humanity.
They get back every cent every spent. 100%
The program works.

I know folks that own 100 houses and the bottom fell out on them.
They were rich.
They milked the system.
Now it is all going away on them.
Why does the govt need to support unrealistic prices for homes, can they not figure out it was a bubble and the homes value must fall on its own and it will self correct.
My city uppem the price of my home 25 to 30 % for 5 year and this year they are reducing it 1.8%
Goodness folks they need to retake math 101.
Corker is right natural markets self correct on there own.
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:13 PM
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Corker, I was going to say it the way you did but I was afraid people would realize how smart I am and be pestering me for advise and....like you know.....wanting me to solve all thier problems and stuff
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:28 PM
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It's really very simple. Free markets work better than government programs. In a free market, there are winners and losers. Life's like that. Government programs propose to make losers winners, and the ultimate losers are always the taxpayers.
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As the old saying goes, all politics are local. The very same inflated real estate values, benefit the city or county in which they're located in the form of property taxes. They seem to be able to adjust these figures at will. Either the value, or the tax rate.
Now riddle me this. My 3 ac. lot that I paid 7500 for, was valued by the city in 2008 at 87,100? I must be some kinda genius to make that "much money" in 5 years.
Here's the kicker. My assessment for the lot for 2009 is 98,300? I've done it! I've beat the downturn in the real estate market! They have to be kidding right?
This doesn't include the house, which we built ourselves and spent 135,000 on, is now "worth" 211,000. I should be "rich".
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Old 02-18-2009, 06:37 PM
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You da man.You are right on in as much as the gov. created this mess in the beginning.All of this present day stuff from magic man,i can man,is right on with the socialist party plan.THey know what they are doing to destroy capatalism in the USA.IT ain't over--We will return!
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Old 02-18-2009, 06:51 PM
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As the old saying goes, all politics are local. The very same inflated real estate values, benefit the city or county in which they're located in the form of property taxes. They seem to be able to adjust these figures at will. Either the value, or the tax rate.
Now riddle me this. My 3 ac. lot that I paid 7500 for, was valued by the city in 2008 at 87,100? I must be some kinda genius to make that "much money" in 5 years.
Here's the kicker. My assessment for the lot for 2009 is 98,300? I've done it! I've beat the downturn in the real estate market! They have to be kidding right?
This doesn't include the house, which we built ourselves and spent 135,000 on, is now "worth" 211,000. I should be "rich".
Ihear ya Les, The value of my house doubled with in the first year I owned it. I know it the truth cause the town of Smithfield told me so. Its amazing what new window and a door can do.
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Old 02-18-2009, 07:07 PM
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Just wait untill you put on a new coat of paint and welcome matt.
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