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Old 02-21-2009, 08:55 PM
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Gonna take this thread in a slightly different direction...I need some advice/forewarnings on growing grass.

No, not that........real grass.

This isn't just a case of throwing seed on a bare patch. I have a corner of the yard that was about 30 feet by 50 feet. It had approx a dozen small trees in it. Mostly oak, beech, and holly trees ranging from 10" to 16" diameters.

I went through and took a chain saw to all but 2 of them. I left the largest oak standing and another one that would have required too much work to avoid taking out my fence if I cut it down.

My question is, now I have this area that has various stumps, weeds, and leafy/rooty top soil. Basically if you can imagine the forest floor of a hard-wood forest, this is what I'm dealing with.

Do I need to have a truck load of top soil brought in? Or should I just till around the stumps? I might get ambitious and dig up the stumps some day....
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ekim,
We have a place here that you can rent a bobcat.Then you can dig the stumps up and bury them.Take the bucket and smooth the area up to plant ya grass seed.
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Gonna take this thread in a slightly different direction...I need some advice/forewarnings on growing grass.

No, not that........real grass.

This isn't just a case of throwing seed on a bare patch. I have a corner of the yard that was about 30 feet by 50 feet. It had approx a dozen small trees in it. Mostly oak, beech, and holly trees ranging from 10" to 16" diameters.

I went through and took a chain saw to all but 2 of them. I left the largest oak standing and another one that would have required too much work to avoid taking out my fence if I cut it down.

My question is, now I have this area that has various stumps, weeds, and leafy/rooty top soil. Basically if you can imagine the forest floor of a hard-wood forest, this is what I'm dealing with.

Do I need to have a truck load of top soil brought in? Or should I just till around the stumps? I might get ambitious and dig up the stumps some day....


I'll get my hubby to chat with you on this subject as he is the "guru" on growing grass...and yes, the kind that can grow in your yard legally He won "Yard of the Month" several times for the City of Hampton, so I'll show him your post and he will respond and let ya know. He has our neighbor's yard looking real good for this year.
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Gonna take this thread in a slightly different direction...I need some advice/forewarnings on growing grass.

No, not that........real grass.

This isn't just a case of throwing seed on a bare patch. I have a corner of the yard that was about 30 feet by 50 feet. It had approx a dozen small trees in it. Mostly oak, beech, and holly trees ranging from 10" to 16" diameters.

I went through and took a chain saw to all but 2 of them. I left the largest oak standing and another one that would have required too much work to avoid taking out my fence if I cut it down.

My question is, now I have this area that has various stumps, weeds, and leafy/rooty top soil. Basically if you can imagine the forest floor of a hard-wood forest, this is what I'm dealing with.

Do I need to have a truck load of top soil brought in? Or should I just till around the stumps? I might get ambitious and dig up the stumps some day....
Ekim, Get someone with a stump grinder to go in there and take care of the stumps. They will also get most of the major roots as well. when they get through. there will be mulch left. Just fill the stump holes back in with the mulch and cover with a layer of top soil. sew Your grass seed then give it plenty of time to settle. Might want to put some wheat straw out over top to help hold the seed in place. Then You will have taken care of all Your stumps and will have a nice smooth surface to mow. CF
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Someone told me that having holly trees around makes it hard to grow grass in that area. I cut the holy down but would I have to treat the area around it with something? I'm not up on the whole "acid vs base" soil characteristics
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It's natural to expect an area of reclaimed "forest" to be very acidic. With or without a load of topsoil, tilling, grinding, etc., add a generous dose of slow-release lime pellets. Tilling's going to be very tough where there are tree roots of any size, but that will loosen the soil & give your grass seedlings a chance to develop deep roots...and they'll need them if trees remain at the edge of your new clearing.
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Thanks Corker, the perimeter is definitely surrounded by trees....but so is the rest of my yard

I gotta get a move on things before it gets too "snakey" out there. I heard a bunch of frogs in a nearby swamp the other day so I have no doubts the snakes have "awoken" by now.
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Interesting.......I HATE mowing grass.
I'm trying to figure out how to get mine NOT to grow.
Holly trees ya say huh?
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This year I switched to Silver Princess, I didn't like the wait on the silver queen hybrid last year plus the kernels were more like feed corn. Added short and sweet carrots, some broc, and other stuff. I might stop the pepper farming. I grow 4 kinds now and only used the jalapeņos. Going to try Cali Wonders one more time, if they go bust again I'll find another strain, cuz the concrete we call "dirt" up here never was good for more than hay.
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Old 02-22-2009, 06:58 PM
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This year I switched to Silver Princess, I didn't like the wait on the silver queen hybrid last year plus the kernels were more like feed corn. Added short and sweet carrots, some broc, and other stuff. I might stop the pepper farming. I grow 4 kinds now and only used the jalapeņos. Going to try Cali Wonders one more time, if they go bust again I'll find another strain, cuz the concrete we call "dirt" up here never was good for more than hay.
Consider growing Bantam T51. It is the original sweet corn that all others are derived from genetically. Yellow corn. Not heirloom, or high-$, very available.
I have grown it 3-4 times over the yrs, in both AZ & TX. If it werent that I am growing popcorn this year and having cross-pollination considerations, I would give it a try here. Next year.
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