Iraqi Oil

[zappaf19]

I saw on the news (CNN) last night where Iraq has tens of BILLONS in the bank from oil profits.
Why are we paying the bill for rebuilding thier roads bridges etc. and not here in our own country? I thought Bush said their oil would pay for the war? I think they can support themselves with that much money in the bank. Whats the intrest rate on a billon dollars?
Bill

[Black Crow]

I think we should trade them Tyson Foods for their oil.

[big "E"]

Originally Posted by zappaf19

I saw on the news (CNN) last night where Iraq has tens of BILLONS in the bank from oil profits.
Why are we paying the bill for rebuilding thier roads bridges etc. and not here in our own country? I thought Bush said their oil would pay for the war? I think they can support themselves with that much money in the bank. Whats the intrest rate on a billon dollars?
Bill

We are paying to clean up the mess that WE made. Thats sort of an elitist attitude to think we can blow it up and let them clean the mess.

[Downwind]

I don't think it would hurt a thing for them to help out with the cost. After all--if it wasn't for the USA they wouldn't have the billions of $$ in the bank.

[CastandBlast]

If the things we were told about Iraq before the war were true I would agree they should use their oil money to rebuild. But since the things we were told turned out to be false and misleading, I think we are obligated to rebuild their infrastructure for them since we are the ones who tore it up.....Hey downwind why do you think they wouldn't have the oil $'s with out the USA?....They were certainly an oil rich country before the war we started.

[Wiskers]

I just got off the boat yesterday to come home and spend a few days with my son. He just got in from Iraq (this is his 3rd tour) and has to go back on the 18th. We sat up late last night and talked. I can tell you this. There is a lot that most of us don't know. They have found a lot of evidence over there that for one reason or another hasn't gotten back to the American public. It frustrates my son that a lot of the truth isn't known. He believes in what we have done and are doing over there and that belief is re-enforce buy what he has seen with own 2 eyes.

After talking with him and without going into much detail I'll just say I don't believe for 1 second they weren't developing WMD and planning to use them.

About an hour ago something happened that I was totally unprepaired for. He was in bed (he's a little jet lagged) and all of a sudden I heard the awfullest camotion I've ever heard! I ran to the bedroom, he was sweat'n and breathing like he'd been in a fight for his life. After he calmed down he told me he was dreaming that they were under attack and he couldn't find his weapon! His fellow soldiers were being cut down and he couldn't help fight back. It spooked my mules a little cause I had never seen him like this! Not a good feeling.

So in closing I'll just say this. The Iraqi gov. had an opportunity to prove to the world that they didn't have the stuff. They refused to allow the world to check and make sure. I feel that they are partly responsible for what happened so they should pony up part of the bill.
Just my 2 cents.

[crappiencali]

Big E I agree with you on some of it is our doing! But I am currently deployed and running convoys into Iraq. In the few months I have been here I haven't seen any American blowing up buildings, roads and the American trucks that transport the goods that are needed to rebuild this giant cat litter box. We have been here long enough and I still haven't seen the Iraqis doing to much to fix their own country, they depend on the US to do it. Hell their military doesn't even help us out, they sit on the side of the road and throw hand grenades under our trucks. I know this because I have had 2 trucks blow up in my face, and have seen more tracers rounds fly over my truck than I care to count. Hey Wisker tell your son that I appreciate the work he does!!

[J White]

Originally Posted by Wiskers;563767
So in closing I'll just say this. The Iraqi gov. had an opportunity to prove to the world that they didn't have the stuff. They refused to allow the world to check and make sure. I feel that they are partly responsible for what happened so they should pony up part of the bill.[/FONT

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Just my 2 cents.

I agree, I don't believe for a minute that Saddam destroyed all that stuff -
maybe sent it to Syria or something, but I believe they had it.
No judgement on my part at this stage on whether it was OUR sole
responsibility to deal with him, but I don't think anyone else WOULD
have helped, no matter what. They all wanted to appease him and
keep making money from dealing with him.

As for what Bush said about who was gonna pay for it, I also remember
some of the admin saying "We are not in the business of nation building"
too

[shadow]

Originally Posted by Wiskers

I just got off the boat yesterday to come home and spend a few days with my son. He just got in from Iraq (this is his 3rd tour) and has to go back on the 18th. We sat up late last night and talked. I can tell you this. There is a lot that most of us don't know. They have found a lot of evidence over there that for one reason or another hasn't gotten back to the American public. It frustrates my son that a lot of the truth isn't known. He believes in what we have done and are doing over there and that belief is re-enforce buy what he has seen with own 2 eyes.

After talking with him and without going into much detail I'll just say I don't believe for 1 second they weren't developing WMD and planning to use them.

About an hour ago something happened that I was totally unprepaired for. He was in bed (he's a little jet lagged) and all of a sudden I heard the awfullest camotion I've ever heard! I ran to the bedroom, he was sweat'n and breathing like he'd been in a fight for his life. After he calmed down he told me he was dreaming that they were under attack and he couldn't find his weapon! His fellow soldiers were being cut down and he couldn't help fight back. It spooked my mules a little cause I had never seen him like this! Not a good feeling.

So in closing I'll just say this. The Iraqi gov. had an opportunity to prove to the world that they didn't have the stuff. They refused to allow the world to check and make sure. I feel that they are partly responsible for what happened so they should pony up part of the bill.
Just my 2 cents.

Wiskers, I agree with you completely and for the american public not knowing.......I blame the libera media.....and CNN is the worst! IMO. I lost all faith in CNN when hurricane Rita came through Lake Charles and they had a reporter standing in front of a tree that was maybe 2 inches in diameter and the reporter was swaying back in forth talking about how bad the winds were when the tree wasn't moving! Now I am not trying to say Rita wasn't bad, it was! But it just goes to show you that CNN will do ANYTHING for ratings. I personally prefer FOX news, they give both sides of the story and let you decide. They don't have a liberal slant on all of their news. Now don't get in an uproar over this because I am just giving MY OPINION on the sitiuation.
Tell your son we are proud of him and we will keep him and his friends in our prayers.

[deathb4disco]

Originally Posted by SS396

If the things we were told about Iraq before the war were true

They were true.

Recognize this?

"It is obvious that there is an attempt here, based on the whole history of this operation since 1991, to protect whatever remains of his capacity to produce weapons of mass destruction, the missiles to deliver them, and the feed stocks necessary to produce them. The UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq still has stockpiles of chemical and biological munitions, a small force of Scud-type missiles, and the capacity to restart quickly its production program and build many, many more weapons. . . . "

It's not George Bush. It's Bill Clinton.

You can read the whole thing here:

Text Of Clinton Statement On Iraq - February 17, 1998

And for those who say, "Hey, that was 1998. Saddam got religion and got rid of his WMD after that," remember that David Kay reported to Congress in 2002 that his team had discovered the following:

* A clandestine network of laboratories and safehouses within the Iraqi Intelligence Service that contained equipment suitable for research in the production of chemical and biological weapons. This kind of equipment was explicitly mentioned in Hans Blix's requests for information, but was instead concealed from Blix throughout his investigations.

* A prison laboratory complex, which may have been used in human testing of biological weapons agents. Iraqi officials working to prepare for U.N. inspections in 2002 and 2003 were explicitly ordered not to acknowledge the existence of the prison complex.

* So-called "reference strains" of biological organisms, which can be used to produce biological weapons. The strains were found in a scientist's home.

* New research on agents applicable to biological weapons, including Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever, and continuing research on ricin and aflatoxin--all of which was, again, concealed from Hans Blix despite his specific request for any such information.

* Plans and advanced design work on new long-range missiles with ranges up to at least 1,000 kilometers--well beyond the 150-kilometer limit imposed on Iraq by the U.N. Security Council. These missiles would have allowed Saddam to threaten targets from Ankara to Cairo.

The whole "Bush lied, people died" thing may look good on a bumper sticker, but it's just wrong.