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    Quote Originally Posted by Redge View Post
    I think Hanr3 summed it up pretty nicely.
    I have seen it happen to smart, intelligent, excited people more than once.
    We always counted the bag at least twice, no matter what.


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    I don't mix my meat fish with my tourney fish, never ever would I do that especially in a tourney this BIG.... juss sayn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonnie84 View Post
    I totally agree with you Semo according to the rules they should have been DQ at the scales but it's my understanding that ACT not only didn't DQ them they actually weighed their fish and awarded them first place, of course they weren't aware they were weighing 8 fish but still a big mistake by ACT so they should shoulder some of the responsibility as well.
    By that way of thinking, if I could sneak an extra one past them, I should win.

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    As far as the tagging goes, we left a tag on our big fish at MCC Grenada this past Saturday. Last ones to weigh in, and when I dumped the cooler in the basket, they looked at us like I had just stood up and farted in church, but I was allowed the remove the tag.

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    When tournament fishing, and money is on the line, I never worry about meat fish! In one tournament trail we fish, you are allowed to keep your fish after the weight in. We only do it when the fish are dead (we are allowed dead weight in this series with no penalty). There is one location that will not allow us to release fish. The native American tribe gets involved. Without being political one way or another, we ALL keep our fish during this tournament.

    Walleye tournaments are different. Some of them ONLY allow you to keep 1 fish above your limit (tournament weight limit NOT your state limit). So, if you weight 5 fish, you can only have 6 in the boat at one time. Some of them allow for you State possession limit but only the 5 weigh fish go in the box. For us, there is zero reason to keep over 6 fish. I run two livewells. My cull fish (smallest of the 6) goes in the other livewell with the Largest fish. Scales are your friend. Weight every fish, store the numbers, and tag it. Easy to shift your weights.

    I've seen undersized fish come to the scale. DQ for the day on ALL weight. Their bump board is the board that counts, not yours!
    The Way I see it, you are shooting yourself in the foot by putting 8 fish in the box to then weight 7. Be confident in the 7 biggest fish and take your medicine if you have dead weight. It isn't the other competitors fault that you cannot count. Don't rely on others to ensure you are doing the right thing. The tournament should not have to stand over a grown man (or women) and count, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, ah 8... sorry, you are one fish over. You might want to think about it. If two guys in the boat can't keep track of it, then maybe they want to think about what they are doing.

    Yes, mistakes happen but, I see it as the sole responsibility of the competitor and not the tournament. We learned how to count in Kindergarten!
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    I think it could be a heat of the moment thing. Like was said earlier the fish are biting and all you think is to get the fish in the well alive. you really don't think about culling until you are done and on your way to the ramp. time is of the essence and that is all that is in your mind.

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    I have fished several tournaments and pondered fishing the one this happened at. In MHO some thing ain't right. They weighed 9 fish and still had another in the live well!!! This is after the officials supposedly removed the small cull 8th fish and checked to see if that left them with 7 to weigh in. When I tourney fish I only want 7 in the box 8 at the most. If you can't keep those alive with the products that are on the market, you aught not fish tournaments. If you want to meat fish and keep a bunch do it while your prefishing for the tournament. That team should never had made it to the scales when they showed up to get checked at the weigh in line. Would of saved a lot of embarrassment for everyone envolved. Gonna be a little hard to edit that incident out of a TV show

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crappiebeagle View Post
    I have fished several tournaments and pondered fishing the one this happened at. In MHO some thing ain't right. They weighed 9 fish and still had another in the live well!!! This is after the officials supposedly removed the small cull 8th fish and checked to see if that left them with 7 to weigh in. When I tourney fish I only want 7 in the box 8 at the most. If you can't keep those alive with the products that are on the market, you aught not fish tournaments. If you want to meat fish and keep a bunch do it while your prefishing for the tournament. That team should never had made it to the scales when they showed up to get checked at the weigh in line. Would of saved a lot of embarrassment for everyone envolved. Gonna be a little hard to edit that incident out of a TV show
    Exactly!
    When crappie fishing, and coming to the weight in, many guys use a 30qrt engel live bait cooler with bubbler. You throw in a cap full of Hydrogen peroxide which has extra oxygen in it (H2O2). Not hard to count your fish in a small box like this and keep them alive for final weigh in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ET Fish View Post
    Here’s my guess. Catching and putting in the livewell, but not weighing and identifying/separating them. Get to weigh in, then try to sort through several fish...in the tournaments that I have fished, you can keep up to the limit, but only weigh seven. Now, you are in a hurry, weighing, culling, and moving them around. Chances are they are in a weigh-in bag, so they are bunched up. All that being said, you are hurrying and get careless.
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    I did a few weeks ago. I thought I counted 7 but had 8 in the bucket. I cought it just in time though and only weighed 7. I can see it happening especially when you are tired and maybe dehydrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crappiebeagle View Post
    I have fished several tournaments and pondered fishing the one this happened at. In MHO some thing ain't right. They weighed 9 fish and still had another in the live well!!! This is after the officials supposedly removed the small cull 8th fish and checked to see if that left them with 7 to weigh in. When I tourney fish I only want 7 in the box 8 at the most. If you can't keep those alive with the products that are on the market, you aught not fish tournaments. If you want to meat fish and keep a bunch do it while your prefishing for the tournament. That team should never had made it to the scales when they showed up to get checked at the weigh in line. Would of saved a lot of embarrassment for everyone envolved. Gonna be a little hard to edit that incident out of a TV show
    First of all I was there. The ACT Officials counted and checked their fish twice and removed the 8th fish from their livewell. At that time there were only 7 fish in the livewell. The Top 10 boats were all parked together on the side. Since they were leading they were weighted last. I stood beside the boat when they took the fish out of the livewell ( within 6ft). I never actually counted the fish as they took them out but after awhile I thought there was too many put in the bag. I have seen a few tournament fish and knew they did not over a 2# average. The live video shows what looks like a tagged fish being put back in the livewell, but it was not it was a floating air hose that caught on the side of the fish. All the fish were removed from the livewell. They should have known they had more than 7 fish in the bag. But 'heat of the moment"? When they weighed almost 15# I said no way. Matt Morgan took the bag of right away to the release tank and told the operator " don't dump this bag, hang it up, I'll will be right back". While all the rest of the hoopla was going on stage, he counted the fish and found 9 fish were in the bag. When the anglers were heading to the Polygraph he stopped them and told them they were DQ because they weighted too many fish. If you watch the live feed you can count the fish. The video was reviewed and the DQ held. The anglers have issued a letter and it is on ACT facebook page. The ACT Officials handeled it in the Best way possible at that time. This is an unfortunate mistake by the anglers. How the extra fish got in the livewell, I have No idea. All the videos have been reviewed even the one using the drone flying over the parking lot. No answers.Everyone involved would like to know. Only thing I know the fish were spawning!
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