spider rig ????????

[Gamblinman]

Yep slower. When you see your lines slanting, let off the trolling motor and let the boat drift till they're straight, then just move forward a little at a time. I use 3/4 and 1 ounce weights, and I still get them slanted at times. Always troll into the wind.

Gman

[Hillbilly910]

James

For what we troll(minnow rigs mostly) .05 is breaking the speed limit, ...08 would be MACH3. LOL Slow going seems to be the best, .02-.04 is a good range, weights from 1/4-3/4 depending on wind.

However, if your trying to push troll crankbaits(i got a funny feeling you are!LOL), you'll need to double if not triple your weights, theres alot of drag on even a tiny crank, and it requires a lot of weight to keep it vertical, or even close. Lighter line helps to, cuts the water better, less drag. For the bitsy pond minnow i like, at .07 i need at least 1 ounce for vertical presentation in dead calm conditions. deeper you fish, more weight as well.

I wouldnt worry about your rodhoder set-up. Long as it holds the rods still, and you can somewhat adjust there postition, go with it. I like to keep the rod tips as close to the water as i can. Makes your depth set more accurate, and also alows you to decect light bites better, since the rod is closer to the water, and minor movement shows up well, a good hit takes the pole tip underwater, which is always cool! Rougher water, the higher from the surface you'll need them set.

Man i love slow trollin.

HB

[jeepguyjames]

James

For what we troll(minnow rigs mostly) .05 is breaking the speed limit, ...08 would be MACH3. LOL Slow going seems to be the best, .02-.04 is a good range, weights from 1/4-3/4 depending on wind.

However, if your trying to push troll crankbaits(i got a funny feeling you are!LOL), you'll need to double if not triple your weights, theres alot of drag on even a tiny crank, and it requires a lot of weight to keep it vertical, or even close. Lighter line helps to, cuts the water better, less drag. For the bitsy pond minnow i like, at .07 i need at least 1 ounce for vertical presentation in dead calm conditions. deeper you fish, more weight as well.

I wouldnt worry about your rodhoder set-up. Long as it holds the rods still, and you can somewhat adjust there postition, go with it. I like to keep the rod tips as close to the water as i can. Makes your depth set more accurate, and also alows you to decect light bites better, since the rod is closer to the water, and minor movement shows up well, a good hit takes the pole tip underwater, which is always cool! Rougher water, the higher from the surface you'll need them set.

Man i love slow trollin.

HB

AH HA HA Hillbilly .......great guess on the crankbaits, but nope i have been trying to expanding my tatics . i have been trying to spider rig minners, and jigs. I have even made myself leave the crankbait box at home a few trips just so i can learn somthing new, man thats hard to do for me, i like my bandits :D i havent made it to the pushing cranks yet, some how i think i will though..... you know, honestly i think the speed problem comes from pulling cranks so much, .8 mph feels like i am sitting still, def not mach 3 , thanks for the input on the rod angles that will help me figure this out for sure.

[jeepguyjames]

Dont think that having your lines vertical is all that important, trolling is the only way a lot of folks fish around here, some go slow and some go fast, i use a 2oz. wt and like my lines to be about2-3 in past vertical.

mine are going way past that point even, i would be very happy with 2 or 3 inches, but they are way farther than that, i think the overall concencus is im speeding.......... how fast are you going with 2oz of weight?

[jeepguyjames]

thanks guys, will be out soon and will try to slow her down even more...great ideas on tapping the troller to go slow enough, hopefully by doing so i wont need to mess with my drift sock, one last question do any of you guys use a capps/coleman rig at these speeds? i have tried em but always got tangled up together,maybe once again a result of the speed? thanks all for the input, trying to learn a new method and am thankful for you guys willing to help out, God bless all

[jimfish]

mine are going way past that point even, i would be very happy with 2 or 3 inches, but they are way farther than that, i think the overall concencus is im speeding.......... how fast are you going with 2oz of weight?

About 2-3in past vert. dont know exact speed.

[flycaster]

another thing to look at is the diameter of you line. The larger the diameter the more drag thru the water.

["G"]

Mr. Jim....please explain your whole rig set up with the 2 oz. weight........are you using a bell sinker or a egg sinker? where on your rig is your jig etc. Thanks.

[skeetbum]

I had a power drive TM on my last boat (a stick steer) and loved the speed control. I could get it moving so slow you could count the revolutions. TM now has set speeds and will be replaced when I can with a variable speed model. Bumping frustrates me, but I'm getting better at it.

[gabowman]

Everyone's right on about going SLOW!!! I like using 1 oz. of weight on the bottom and tie one or two jigs up the line on loop knots about a foot apart, or either just bare hooks using minnows.