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    And just so it is said, Bucktail may come from a deer, whose body hair is hollow but the bucktail is not. Two different animals to tie with. I have always wanted to try spinning deer hair to make topwater bass flies but have yet to try it. Hair works at times and is always worth carrying a few.
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    While on the subject of hair...please enlighten a novice on what to do with zonkers.

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    My best friend uses a special hair that he collects himself. I'm sworn to secrecy as to what it is, but it makes a killer dry fly that works everywhere on everything. It's the only fly he uses. The tricky part is that the animal carries the Hanta virus, and he has to be very careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiptomylu View Post
    I have some coyote and is good stuff actually. I have Polar Bear, Fox, Australian Possum and American Possum, Rabbit (also Bunnybou strips), Regular Squirrel, Pine Squirrel Zonkers, Mink strips, Elk, Deer, Moose, Badger, Finnish Racoon and probably a couple others I am not thinking about. Oh yeah Temple Dog I got before it became a bad thing to buy due to the way they were being treated I think maybe in China?? Once they started using this hair people started trying to take advantage and became not the thing to buy!

    Also know you better treat that hide if you happen on a fresh kill like that. Make sure to do the things you need to on that hide.

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    Good advice, Skip. See my post about my friend and the Hanta virus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishaholic_Jim View Post
    While on the subject of hair...please enlighten a novice on what to do with zonkers.

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    There are two basic kind of strips, Zonkers and Crosscut, but seems not all fur/hair is used the same way, but Rabbit is great for both! Zonkers are cut front to back and crosscut are cut across the hide and the fur comes off to the side where Zonkers come off inline with the hide strip. I have a short slide show of tying a Crosscut Rabbit strip that will help you with that part. The Crosscut can be tie using just it or you can tie in a Zonker first and then a crosscut to do the body. You can also use chenille body and Zonker tail. I have some pics on my web site that you can look at. Here is the slide show link.... Slide Shows Slideshow by Skip48 | Photobucket

    If you have more questions after this just ask, lol!

    Oh and on that hide thing, even just doing a squirrel tail I will use Borax and Salt to cure the end where it's cut off. The Borax is good to kill germs. I do not know what else is available for a whole hide like a Coyote or Fox or any full pelt.

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    Thanks alot Skip

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishaholic_Jim View Post
    Thanks alot Skip

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    Your welcome!

    One more thing here is the link to the sticky post that I got that link from and there are more thing there to help tying.
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    Have many of the same as Skip = Rabbit, squirrel, pine squirrel and red squirrel zonkers, mink, Arctic fox, red fox, polar bear, deer, coyote, Possum, mule deer, moose, elk, badger,
    alpaca, sable, nutria, mountain goat, black/brown/grizzly bear, chinchilla, bison, muskrat, calf tail, beaver, and more. but I also tie flies and skip is right certain flies are tied with certain materials.
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    Fatman, have you ever tied a brown bear brown or a brown bear black. I have caught more trout on those two flies than on any other fly. The original tyer was Mr. Wombacher. When he died, the copiers used a different shade of brown that did not work nearly as well. They look simple to tie, black or brown thread body with an orange weave on the belly, and brown bear hair tied to lie along the body. I have one left, but I keep it with my trout stuff in Montana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigskyfisherman View Post
    Fatman, have you ever tied a brown bear brown or a brown bear black. I have caught more trout on those two flies than on any other fly. The original tyer was Mr. Wombacher. When he died, the copiers used a different shade of brown that did not work nearly as well. They look simple to tie, black or brown thread body with an orange weave on the belly, and brown bear hair tied to lie along the body. I have one left, but I keep it with my trout stuff in Montana.
    Why don't you show us a picture of the one you still have?

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