Thread: Hunting with dogs...

I dont like getting into most of these subjects but everyone has there own way of doing things but myself I personally still hunt. But like someone metioned its no difference than any other sport with dogs if you do it under the right conditions but i can say if I joined a hunting club with a guy with shot gun and whiskey one of us would be out of that club. Or the game warden would show him the right way to hunt

Theres just something about bein in the same feild with deer and they never even know your around... wandering when that shooters going to step out, but im sure theres something special with the dog huntin too I just will probably never know what it is. Its all about the way youre brought up and the way youre taught and your part of the country, of course.

Originally Posted by jimmydee1

Love to hear beagles on rabbits, or hounds on coons but dogs running deer just doesn't seem, well, ethical to me. I know guys that let their dogs run deer to them and they shoot the deer- and call it hunting. Seems to me like the dogs are doin the hunting and the guys are just doin the shootin. Bet they'd even let the dogs field dress it they could teach them to do it.

Just sayin-----

In Missouri it is illegal for dogs to run deer, and per a conservation agent, if you see a dog running a deer you can legally shoot the dog. Now, I'd have a problem shooting someone elses dog, but I know folks who have and will continue to shoot dogs running deer on their private property.

That is BS and ignorant to say the least! The dogs don't chase a deer to a hunter, the deer runs from the dog and you must hunt the area before hand to find a likely place the deer are and the escape routes used.
I simple phone call to the MO dept. of conservation revealed - No you can't shoot a dog running a deer unless you think your life is in danger.

Originally Posted by NIMROD

Is it hunting when a bunch of locals messes up everyones still hunting? Here they dump dogs where ever they please, then try to head the race off with tracking collars, 2 way Radios, and driving ATV or Trucks. Even being illegal does'nt slow them down.Takes a fool to run wide open carry'n a loaded gun. Sometimes they even bother to get out of the motor vehicle to shoot! They are a danger to everyone hunting or just driving down the roads!

More BS nimrod!

That has nothing to do with dog hunting. That is just simple criminal activity. If it is a problem call a game warden. I have seen allot more still hunting poachers than dog hunting poachers. That doesn't make still hunting bad. And not I don't dog hunt and don't have problem with it either. It was the first form of hunting by native americans.
Everyone seems to want their own form of hunting to be the only one allowed and will either blast the other kinds or make up stories to end the other form. This really hurts hunting as a whole. It gives ammo to the anti-hunting groups.

I dog hunted for 20 yrs. I have been on some hunts like Nimrod's talking about. A few outlaws will give the rest a bad name, but like SEtakle said, still hunters poach also, they are just harder to catch. I don't dog hunt anymore, but still like to hear em. I hate to say it but dog hunting is a dyeing sport.

Originally Posted by Southeasttackle

More BS nimrod!

That has nothing to do with dog hunting. That is just simple criminal activity. If it is a problem call a game warden. I have seen allot more still hunting poachers than dog hunting poachers. That doesn't make still hunting bad. And not I don't dog hunt and don't have problem with it either. It was the first form of hunting by native americans.
Everyone seems to want their own form of hunting to be the only one allowed and will either blast the other kinds or make up stories to end the other form. This really hurts hunting as a whole. It gives ammo to the anti-hunting groups.

This really happens here. Calling the WO gets no help. Most dog runners here use motorized vehicles to head off dogs and the deer. I wish deer dogs were outlawed in these mountains like they are in most other states with this type of terrain.

Originally Posted by NIMROD

This really happens here. Calling the WO gets no help. Most dog runners here use motorized vehicles to head off dogs and the deer. I wish deer dogs were outlawed in these mountains like they are in most other states with this type of terrain.

There are allot more still hunters that break the law and there are allot of night hunters that poach from vehicles not using dogs.
Are we to outlaw still hunting and ban people from using vehicles outside the city limits? NO.

Sounds like someone just has a problem with dog hunting and is making excuses. That is a small problem compared to still hunting problems. That is a fact.

Sometimes people don't trully understand an issue and jumps the gun and makes up things. Just think about it, using vehicles to head off deer? I think not. Can't be done! Deer often use zig-zag routes to excape and often back tracking to throw off the dogs. Predicting all that while driving or riding in a truck or atv??? Not. That's why dog hunting is a dying sport. It's just too hard to predict deer movement. It's mostly a matter of luck. There are not enough road to be able to use a motorized vehicle effectively.
Maybe the game wardens don't do anything about your issue because it's a personal one and nothing wrong is going on.

Originally Posted by Southeasttackle

There are allot more still hunters that break the law and there are allot of night hunters that poach from vehicles not using dogs.
Are we to outlaw still hunting and ban people from using vehicles outside the city limits? NO.

Sounds like someone just has a problem with dog hunting and is making excuses. That is a small problem compared to still hunting problems. That is a fact.

Sometimes people don't trully understand an issue and jumps the gun and makes up things. Just think about it, using vehicles to head off deer? I think not. Can't be done! Deer often use zig-zag routes to excape and often back tracking to throw off the dogs. Predicting all that while driving or riding in a truck or atv??? Not. That's why dog hunting is a dying sport. It's just too hard to predict deer movement. It's mostly a matter of luck. There are not enough road to be able to use a motorized vehicle effectively.
Maybe the game wardens don't do anything about your issue because it's a personal one and nothing wrong is going on.

Your sadly misinformed. Deer are lazy animals and use the easiest escape route unless highly pressured most of the time. In the mountains a local soon learns the crossings and can head off the deer by covering the best or most used crossings in that direction. Nothing worse than road hunters or crazy yahoos running helter skelter to head off a deer race. They have head on collisions almost every year up here by deer dog runners try'n to head off a race.

Back in 1957 I married an Alabama girl. We moved to Bama for a while. Her dad and brothers had a bunch of deer hounds and they took me " dog hunting" for deer. !2 hours later I finally figured out why they called it dog hunting. Thats all we did was hunt dogs. Them they took me squirrel hunting. When I showed up with my 22 rifle they laughed. I had never seen anyone hunt little old squirrels with a shotgun.

I, sure would like to see that MO.law that says you can shoot a dog running a deer.Shoot my dog (sql.dog)And you will be in court.I dont agree with running deer with dogs but a few times mine will bump a deer but it has to be a hot track and he will run it maybe 50 yards.Now if that gives someone the right to shoot my dog there would lie the problem