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    Default Thought with the talk I hear,

    that some of you may want to read a response from the FWC before someone gets into possiable trouble for not having a permit from the state if it applies to the specific body of water.

    Response (LE-RB) 11/12/2009 08:37 AM
    The public can create attractors in private ponds, and with a permit from DEP may be able to place them in public waters.

    Brush attractors help concentrate fish where anglers can catch them easily. Fish are attracted to brush piles in search of food and protection from predators. Oak, citrus and hardwood trees, are all good attractor materials. Green trees with numerous small limbs are best and sink with a minimum weighting material. Christmas trees are sometimes used but tend to break down quickly and don't make the best attractors. Rock piles, plastic pipe, concrete culverts and wood boxes also can provide shelter areas. If a sandy or gravel bottom is not present, areas 5'(W) X 20' (L)X 4" (D) of #57 lime rock create attractors and spawning areas for largemouth bass and bream. There are also many man-made attractors on the market, such as the crappie condos some have inquired about, which eliminates refurbishing natural materials. Three-feet of clearance from the top of the attractor to water surface should be maintained at all times.

    Placing any of these type attractors in public water bodies or lakes owned by two or more parties requires a dredge-and-fill permit from the Department of Environmental Protection (DEP). For specific information about permitting requirements visit the DEP at FDEP Environmental Resource Permitting (ERP) Dredge and Fill Fact Sheet

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    Thanks for the info. That 3' of clearance from the surface may be tricky in a lot of places, but there is plenty of water deep enough to put a few out. Just make sure you get that permit. Dem boys are out there watchin you.
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    its the Dredge and Fill Permit .... that is whats going to stop you.
    Its harder to get, than striking gold......flat out isnt worth it, just to dump some junk in a lake that may or may not work to begin with.
    And Im not so sure of the legal aspect or ramifications that may come with it in the liabilty department, that is if a permit could be obtained in the 1st place
    The fisherman who puts his time in and pays his dues were catching fish before all these so called condo things, and they will be catching them long after we all are gone and without them.
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    Has anyone ever got one of these permits? i think the next one issued will be number one.
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    Word to the wise... During a tournament, never fish structure you have put in the water yourself.(unless you have the permit) All Tourneys require you follow state and local regulations. And, that would be an illegal structure.

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    What happen to the fun?

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    Why are they worried about people dumping branches in the lake? Shouldn’t they be more concerned with all these beautiful lawns surrounding most lakes in Florida? Where do you think that entire bag of weed and feed goes. How about all of those manmade sandy beaches I see on the winter haven chain? How about septic contamination being found in Lake Lulu. How about all of those street gutters that drain directly to lake; transmission fluid, brake pad dust, brake fluid, engine coolant oil and power steering fluid.

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    I sank my first three condos Tuesday, didn't check them until today.
    I saw a couple of fish that appeared to be holding on one of them.
    Pretty darn quick if you ask me. Must be the lack of deep structure.
    I did find out that a few locals dumped a bunch of Xmas trees last January.....I'm still looking for them.

    Trolled up one lonely looking 11" Crappie late this evening.
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    Default Saddlebag Lake

    Message for Vietvet-

    I owned a unit at Saddlebag for about 20 years - recently sold it (more like gave it away). I usually found the crappies in the bayou - not on the main lake.

    I would drift from my unit at 52 Queen of Waters west to the end of thr bayou near the administration building. Usually used a 1/16 oz. marabou jig tipped with a minnow, fished about 6' deep.

    Good Luck!

    Tacky Tub

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