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    How do you feel about Malibu and tube jig (multiple tails like octopus)bodies ?
    Noticed both styles not mentioned but seem to be popular


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    Quote Originally Posted by chippo View Post
    How do you feel about Malibu ...
    Marabou jigs are awesome baits. They have a very subtle action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chippo View Post
    How do you feel about Malibu and tube jig (multiple tails like octopus)bodies ?
    Noticed both styles not mentioned but seem to be popular
    They weren't mentioned because the OP doesn't use them. But, yeah ... they're both very effective baits. I don't use marabou jigs so much as marabou Roadrunners. But, tube jig bodies are my mainstay, currently. Other than tubes, most plastics I use are the stinger tail style shad bodies.

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    On hollow tube jigs I herd a neat tip. Put jig head eye in tube feed head inside and poke eye out at end of tube and that keeps it on The jig head barb doesn't keep hollow tubes on long


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    [QUOTE=chippo;3488857]On hollow tube jigs I herd a neat tip. Put jig head eye in tube feed head inside and poke eye out at end of tube and that keeps it on The jig head barb doesn't keep hollow tubes on long

    Look again at the top photo in the post. They are wire lure keepers that keep any soft plastic up no matter the number of fish caught. You can them on jigs yourself using 24g coated craft wire sold in craft stores, wire cutters and pointed nose pliers. Just follow the sequence below:



    Start by wrapping the wire around the base of the eye once around; snip one side close and bend it tighter with the pliers.
    Cut of the other side leaving enough to form an L that swings into the lure. I discovered this idea over 10 years ago and haven't used jigs with lead barbs since. It never bothers the fish BTW.

    I always order jigs from Ebay without the lead barb which always ends up making the plastic weaker. (Ignore it in the photos which are for demonstration only.) Super glue is also a lure killer if you want to use the lure again.
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    Okay guys and gals, here's another bit of information that may support the original post depending on your point of view.

    Title: It's the Little Things that Count
    For as long as I've caught fish on lures, I've always wondered why many work and many don't (or at least less). Now, other than the age old wisdom that lures represent prey animal life fish recognize and attack (read no further if you firmly believe that), I'm going to suggest another idea based on:

    1. fish don't have the brains to target any particular species and
    2. they possess the sense - as in senses - to detect a moving object and
    3. are then stimulated by the physical properties of the lure before it attacks it.

    After many years buying lures and making my own, I finally came to the conclusion that fish have unique senses that other animals don't have regarding the water they live in. Eyesight is keen, lateral line super sensitive, odor detection not so good. But put the first two together and you have a detection organ as good as any sonar and eyesight superior by 180 degrees (eyes on both sides of it's head) that sees colors and flash. So how does this apply to the success of lures?

    Opinion: Anglers cast many lures that exhibit subtle action or minute visual properties fish feel, see and respond to.
    That's it!
    You can't tell me that lure companies haven't figured this out over 50 years ago when they came up with new lure designs that caught fish and anglers alike. When I used the Floating Rapala for the first time and usually only caught fish on the surface, did it finally occur to me that twitching and pausing was responsible for catching far more fish than on a straight retrieve. The success of slight twitches were because of a lure design that exhibited it. You can recognize subtle lure properties in many lures whether fur, feather, soft or hard plastic.

    Now, this is not to deny the success of spinners, crankbaits, larger tubes or bright fluorescent colors, but for my money I want a lure that can be used at the slowest retrieve, that attracts attention and holds it long enough to provoke a strike. For me it's like hypnotizing a fish to strike involuntarily using a lure's properties to do just that.

    What properties? The more subtle the better such as a quivering tail, the tiny flash of metal flakes in soft plastic lures or the vibrating body-tail of a grub such as the Crappie Magnet (which is nothing more than a quivering cone). Thin 1" minnow shaped lures used under a float catch fish not because a fish thinks it is a fish, but IMO because it's subtle motion under the float suggest something most pan fish lures do: vulnerability. Whether it be a small bug dimpling the surface or the slight gill and fin motions of a minnow, subtle motion is an aquatic part of life (unless of course you're an alligator). If I had only a few designs to fish with the rest of my life, it would be these:



    They exhibit subtle actions that fish stare at and tease the strike out of. But these do also (especially the ones starred when the bite is tough):


    and these:



    As far as the retrieve, the water column hold three possible zones fish may be at: the surface, mid depth and on bottom. The retrieve is the same for all three except when fish respond to a lure that sits on bottom and then attacks it as soon as it moves.

    Is hunger a reason they strike? NAH! They strike because the lure moves a certain way and looks a certain way (size and profile). I've caught too many fish with bulging bellies or fish still in their gullets to believe hunger the reason. Their aggressive nature - most definitely!

    BTW I learned something new from the video. Thanks! Re-review the last 5minutes 44 seconds of the video. It's exactly what I do mid depth for any aggression level and for the exact reasons Charlie mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chippo View Post
    On hollow tube jigs I herd a neat tip. Put jig head eye in tube feed head inside and poke eye out at end of tube and that keeps it on The jig head barb doesn't keep hollow tubes on long
    Yeah, If you're gonna use hollow tubes ... my suggestion is to buy "insert" jig heads (shaped like the end of a baseball bat).

    I quit using hollow tubes and went to solid body tubes, long ago, for that reason (tore up too easily). Rarely have a solid body tube get yanked down on the hook.

    Once I even went to using Super Glue Gel to glue the hollow tube to the jighead ... worked fine for awhile. The only problem was that the Bluegill kept nipping off strands of the skirt and eventually all I had was the core of the body. Then I had to take my pocket knife and scrape off the body & glue remnants ... then start over. Nowadays, I may have the same solid body tube on for the whole day, if not for several separate trips. Plus with using weedless jigheads ... inserting is all but impossible. And I haven't noticed any difference in the hit rate.

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