View Full Version : just another dumb rod question

03-04-2009, 12:23 AM
I was just wondering how much of a difference a "dedicated" crappie rod really makes, over and above like shakespheares agility ,or micro lite rods ? Last year I took a small plunge and bought a 7' micro lite spinning reel from wallyworld and fell in love with it..... it ran me a whoppin' 16.98 plus tax. Granted, it was the first new rod I bought in over 10 yrs, so maybe Im easliy impressed or maybe Im just cheap:cool: I really dont want to drop 40 plus bucks on something that aint that much better with casting, light-weight, and/or sensitivity. OR ...something that needs new tips every so often (my old 6' berkleys never needed these)Anyone with any thoughts on this, lemme know.... ps I have thick skin, so dont spare my feelings :)

03-04-2009, 12:27 AM
you pick up a outlaw,ozark,huckabee or somthing along them line then pick up the shakespheare and its going to feel like a stiff log....spend the money because its well worth it

03-04-2009, 12:54 AM
For casting jigs (which is the only way I fish for crappie), I think Loomis and St. Croix make the best rods. They're not cheap, though.

On the other hand, I have some pretty inexpensive rods that work just fine. One of my favorite UL rods is a $25 Quantum I bought years ago. It has the most unique action I've ever seen in a UL rod. I wish I'd bought three more!

Bottom line: get the best rod you can afford.

03-04-2009, 02:06 AM
I mainly cast and retrieve when I go fish for crappie, been doing it for years. I would throw 1/8 oz to 1/4 oz jigs depending on the wind speed. But yeah, I own a St. Croix myself, took me a while to realize how well they are made for this type of fishing, since I cast and retrieve and work my jig in deep water around 40 ft or more, so a good sensitivity rod is a must. St. Croix is not cheap, but you can always start out with a Falcon rod or other American made rod, just make sure the lure weight on the rod is 1/8 - 3/8 oz or watever.

03-04-2009, 08:42 AM
... if it makes a difference to you ;)
If you're happy/satisfied with a broomstick for a rod and a coke bottle wrapped with line, for a reel ... and they work for you ... then you're good to go !!
Sensitivity isn't always necessary in a rod, unless you're trying to "feel" the bite. If you're a line watcher, you'll "see" more bites than you'll feel (when casting/retrieving). I'm one of those "jig slingers", about 95% of the time, and use a variety of lengths/strengths/compositions of rods ... and they're all spooled with hi-vis line, so I can see the bite happen, whether I feel it or not. Actually, I'd rather see it than feel it :eek: .... LOL, yeah I know, that may sound like blasphemy to those that live for the "thump" :p ... but, I see the thump, and the fish don't feel me or the rod. I can only imagine the surprise in the tiny little minds of those fish, when I set the hook :D

... cp :cool:

03-04-2009, 11:31 AM
I for one look for any advantages I can get. Sight fishing is great but adding feel to your skill set can be a big difference maker.

For jig fishing in closer proximity to the boat once river water temps drop into the 50's I go to a 5' ultralight Fish Eagle II with a St. Croix light action spring bobber added. Perfect for 1/32 oz jigs tipped with plastics OR ice fishing jigs.

03-04-2009, 04:32 PM
Get the best rod you can afford and what you have the most confidence in. If you have a $20 rod because that what you can afford and you done your homework and feel confident using the rod, then I bet you will catch fish.

03-04-2009, 05:34 PM
Your rod will make a huge difference unless you're an expert line watcher. I am always looking for any advantage.

I fish with and love All Star, Ozark Rods and Pro Angler rods. I use them for different things - dipping, casting, etc...

I've had several people in my boat in times past when we were sitting on top of a brush pile and I've caught fish and they didn't. They couldn't figure it out and then I put one of my rods in their hand and boom they start catching. At that point they are ready to throw their rod in the lake and keep mine!

Good luck on your search.


Darryl Morris
03-04-2009, 07:11 PM
I don't cast for crappie but use a 10-foot BnM UltraLite for pitching jigs. I definitely think the rod makes a difference. When you use one every day, all day like I do you begin to see the advantages of a good, quality pole. I'm often asked what would be the number one key to catching more crappie. I always answer, "master the light bite" and the pole/rod is a big part of that.

03-04-2009, 08:23 PM
Everyone can catch fish when the lure gets hammered by the fish. But it the subtle bites that make a difference in rod sensitivity. When you can feel the jig being sucked in by the fish, then that's a sensitive rod. I've found that a quality built rod offers these differences. Also, if you watch closeouts and sales, you can get a expensive rod for around half price. I fish the Cabelas Fisheagle II solely, and they have them on sale at least three times a year for at least half off retail pricing. Great rods and highly recommended. Just my .02. Good luck in your future rod purchases. Rollcaster.....................

03-04-2009, 08:25 PM
I have many rod n reel combos and they all do different duty. From$15 to $100 in price. I mostly cast but I'm trying new techniques that require different tackle. It's fun to learn a bit of a new style and make it work in your own boat. If you think you need it for a special purpose, you probably do. I used to "speck" fish with bass tackle, cant imagine how many fish I missed cuz I was using the wrong stuff.

coastal bend
03-04-2009, 09:47 PM
Check out the Pro angleger rods. They are sensitive and have good back bone. A geat rod for $29.00.

03-04-2009, 09:56 PM
if you like it and it doesnt break you are 100bucks ahead of the game ! or you can break it 5 times and still be ahead. i think you made a good choice

03-04-2009, 10:06 PM
I'm prob alot different than most...but I use 9-10 ft "noodle" rods...they were intended for steelhead fishing, and I use them for that too but it is alot of fun to cast and flip jigs with a 9ft ultra light spinning rod....sure puts a bend in the rod !!!They can get a little heavy casting them all day but I dont lose too many fish because of the softness of the tip and the long sweep they give me on hook sets...also great for fishing a jig/bobber rig.

03-04-2009, 10:29 PM
I'm prob alot different than most...but I use 9-10 ft "noodle" rods...they were intended for steelhead fishing,

I use something similar. They are 12-14' float rods. They're definitely not noodle rods. They have excellent backbone with a much lighter tip. To pick one up, you'd think it's much too heavy for gills and crappie, but it's my absolute favorite for playing any fish.

03-05-2009, 09:55 AM
My favorite in that class rod is a 6' UL built on a ATC Loomis blank with a cedarwood handle, I can really feel a light bite. I recently built a 2 power 7' poppin/spinning rod with EVA split grips...super light but way too tip heavy, had to add a Fuji weight balance kit to balance it out. But I need to fish it to see if if the x-tra bells made that big a ring. Balance over weight makes for a more fishable rod.

03-05-2009, 05:43 PM
Tman, I use the same rod. If people want to spend more money for their rods that's their right. But I'll use the Wally World pole and catch fish just like they do. There are lot of people that think that if you don't use so and so rod you can't catch fish. I don't pay for a name, I pay for the actions of the rod. To me the price of an object doesn't necessarily mean it's better. The action of that rod is jsut right for me, a little limber on the tip and enough back bone in the butt. I can fish it all day and not get tired. Plus so what if it breaks for $20 I'll buy a new one.

03-05-2009, 06:41 PM
Here are two links to a couple of articles that really help break down rod rating terms.

Graphite rods - FLW Outdoors (http://www.flwoutdoors.com/article.cfm?id=141123)

Fishing Rod Selection; Selecting a fishing rod (http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/rodselection.html)

03-07-2009, 10:46 PM
I appreciate everyones replies. After speaking to a few dealers/mfrs , I ordered an 8' and a 10' from Ed @ pro angler. Super nice fellow, with lots of knowledge, and rods seemed reasonably priced. Cant wait to try them out ! Thanx again :)

03-09-2009, 07:10 AM
I love my b&m poles as well.